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Merc 700 sci question...
I was at the boat show the other day and was looking at 38 footers (Formula, Fountain and Donzi) with twin 700 sci motors and NXT drives. The sales people were telling me about the performance advantages but also explained that the motors would need a complete rebuild after 150 hours. Now I am new to this level of performance (I have a 27' ft., 2000 Checkmate with a single 454) but read a whole bunch of specs and info on this motor. Nowhere else did it say anything about such a short life span.
Can someone enlighten me... If I bust a nut to get into one of these monsters will I be rebuilding in 2 to 3 seasons? Probably wont matter cause I gotta have one!!! But just curious. Thanks. Brian |
Posting this on the General Boating section will get you 10 times the response...
The 700 is nothing more than a 502 with an intercooled Whipple. Not a radical setup by any definition. It should be good for at least twice or maybe three times that. If you ran it at maximum rpm in race conditions, then maybe. Merc is the most expensive out there and very high quality. They're also pretty conservative on things. It's hard to have that many customers and continue to sell at those prices if their stuff wasn't holding together and delivering a good lifespan. The rebuild interval number sounds like the 1075/1200 engine's. I think I saw a press release about Merc's rebuild program for that motor that quoted that 150 hr. number |
MAINTENANCE
52 Mercury Marine recommends that you have the dealer do periodic maintenance checks on your power package. Have them winterize it in the fall and service it before the boating season. This will reduce the possibility of any problems occurring during your boating season when you want trouble-free boating pleasure. IMPORTANT: Refer to the Maintenance Charts (on following pages) for a complete listing of all scheduled maintenance to be performed. Some listings can be done by the owner/operator, while others should be performed by an authorized Mercury Marine dealer. Before attempting maintenance or repair procedures not covered in this manual, Mercury Marine recommends purchasing a Mercury Marine Service Manual. Maintenance Charts NOTE: The following maintenance charts should be used as a guideline. Depending on the type of boat, optional equipment, the application and/or conditions of use, it may be required that the maintenance intervals be modified. Work closely with your authorized Mercury Marine dealer to develop a specific maintenance schedule designed for your application. ENGINE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE Interval Task After first 25 hours of operation Change transmission fluid Check prior to every use and every 3 hours of operation Engine Crankcase Oil - Check level Seawater Filter - Check for debris or leakage Power Steering Fluid - Check level Transmission Fluid - Check level Supercharger - Check oil level in sight-glass Fuel Pump Sight Tube - Ensure that no fuel is present. Vapor or condensation is acceptable After every use in salty, brackish, or mineral-laden water Flush the seawater section of the cooling system MAINTENANCE 53 Interval Task Every 25 hours of operation or once every 30 days, whichever occurs first Battery - Check water level and inspect for corrosion or damage Inspect external water pickups - Check for marine growth or debris Sea Pump/Fuel Pump - Check the oil level and inspect for fuel contamination Engine Oil and Filter - Change Saltwater use: Every 50 hours of operation or 60 days, whichever occurs first Power Package Exterior Surfaces - Spray with rust preventive Every 50 hours or once a year, whichever occurs first Perform all 25 hour maintenance items Serpentine and Supercharger Belts - Inspect condition and check tension Cooling System Hoses and Clamps - Inspect for damage and deterioration. Check clamps for tightness Electrical System - Check for loose or damaged wiring Continuity Circuit - Check components for loose connections, broken or frayed wires Shift and Throttle Cable and Linkage - Lubricate and inspect for loose, damaged or missing parts Engine Exhaust System - Inspect for damage, deterioration and restrictions. Check clamps for tightness Water Separator Filter - Inspect (If Installed on boat) Engine Driveshaft and Slip Yoke - Lubricate (drive-line models) Freshwater use: Twice a year Power Package Exterior Surfaces - Spray with rust preventative MAINTENANCE 54 Interval Task Every 100 hours of operation or once a year, whichever occurs first Perform all 25 hour and 50 hour maintenance items Supercharger - Change oil Power Package Exterior Surfaces - Clean and paint Engine Cylinder Compression - Check Engine and Power Steering Oil Coolers - Clean the seawater sections Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) Valve - Replace Flame Arrestor and Crankcase Ventilation Hose - Inspect, clean or replace Engine Alignment - Check Exhaust - Check for signs of water leakage Exhaust System Internal and External Shutters - Inspect Change transmission fluid Every 100 hours of operation or recommissioning after storage Peform 25, 50, and 100 hour maintenance items Fuel filters - Replace Every 100 hours of operation or once a season or whenever insufficient seawater flow is suspected causing the operating temperature to exceed normal Seawater Pick-up Pump - Disassemble and inspect Every 200 hours of operation Peform 25, 50, and 100 hour maintenance items Ignition System - Clean and inspect condition. Check electrode gap or replace spark plugs as needed Change power steering system filter (s) Every 5 years Flush the closed cooling system and refresh coolant MAINTENANCE 55 NXT¹ DRIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE Interval Task Check prior to use and every 3 hours of operation. Drive, Transom, and Propeller - Inspect. Lower Gear Housing Oil - Check level. Power Trim Pump Oil - Check level and for any water contamination. Replace if necessary. Anodes - Inspect for erosion. Gear Housing Water Pickups - Check for marine growth or debris. Initial break-in at 25 hours. Lower Gear Housing Oil - Change Every 25 hours of operation or every 90 days, whichever occurs first. Tie-bar Mounting Bracket Nuts - Inspect and tighten to specifications as needed. Propeller Shaft - Lubricate. Propeller Nut - Retighten. Anodes - Inspect for erosion. Sterndrive - Inspect, clean, and spray with rust preventative. Every 50 hours of operation. Perform 25 Hour Maintenance Items. Sterndrive Unit Input Splines (Internal and External) - Lubricate with Optimol Paste White T Grease. Drive Mounting Nuts - Tighten to 136 Nm (100 lb. ft.) Drive Input Shaft - Lubricate. Steering System - Inspect for loose, damaged or missing parts. Lubricate the steering cylinder pivot points. Transom Gimbal Housing Assembly Swivel Shaft and Gimbal Bearing - Lubricate. Every 100 hours of operation or every 120 days, whichever occurs first. Peform 25 and 50 Hour Maintenance Items. Drive Unit Bellows and Clamps - Inspect. Inspect all rotating and reciprocating components for wear. Replace the components as needed. MAINTENANCE 56 Interval Task Every 100 hours of operation Lower Gear Housing Oil - Change Transom Input Shaft Bearing Housing - Change the oil. Every 200 hours of operation or once a year, whichever occurs first. Peform 25, 50, and 100 Hour Maintenance Items. Engine Alignment - Check. Propeller Shaft Bearing - Inspect by measuring shaft deflection. Every rebuild Lower Gear Housing - Oil and filter change Checking Fluid Levels CHECKING CRANKCASE OIL IMPORTANT: Check the engine crankcase oil at the intervals specified in the Maintenance Chart. NOTE: Oil consumption is greatly dependant on engine speed. Consumption is highest at wide-open-throttle and decreases substantially as engine speed is reduced. It is common for big block, high-performance engines to use up to one quart of oil in one to five hours, if the engine is operated continuously at the upper end of the RPM range. 1. Stop the engine. 2. Allow approximately five minutes for the oil to drain into the oil pan. The boat must be at rest in the water or at the approximate angle that it would be if setting in the water. 3. Remove the dipstick, wipe it clean, and re-install it all the way into the dipstick tube. 4. Remove the dipstick and check the oil level. The oil level must be between the "OK RANGE" and the "ADD" marks. 5. If the oil level is at or below the "ADD" mark, remove the oil filler cap (port or starboard). Add enough oil to bring the level into the "OK RANGE" on the dipstick. Do not overfill. |
Plugs at 200 hours. My guess is the engine rebuilds are more hours than that. ;)
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Thanks for the notes guys.... I did notice after I posted that this should have been in the General thread. Thanks for pasting all of that Nascat... I did see those charts when I was looking for info on the net. Doesn't seem much different from what I do now... only on a much bigger scale. I have almost 1000 hours on my 454 in salt water and usually stay pretty much on top of things myself. I just thought it would be a little outrageous to ask me to spend upwards of 1/2 a mil on a monster boat that would need to have the power plants pulled in less than 3 years time. I know my way around a big block and only some of the new tecnological advances may set me back a bit. This will also be my first step into the world of super-charged big blocks.
Anyway... thanks again for the help. You may see this posted in General again just to hear what some others have to say. Be well and keep warm this winter. Brian |
Originally Posted by Plaineman
(Post 2397563)
I was at the boat show the other day and was looking at 38 footers (Formula, Fountain and Donzi) with twin 700 sci motors and NXT drives. The sales people were telling me about the performance advantages but also explained that the motors would need a complete rebuild after 150 hours. Now I am new to this level of performance (I have a 27' ft., 2000 Checkmate with a single 454) but read a whole bunch of specs and info on this motor. Nowhere else did it say anything about such a short life span.
Can someone enlighten me... If I bust a nut to get into one of these monsters will I be rebuilding in 2 to 3 seasons? Probably wont matter cause I gotta have one!!! But just curious. Thanks. Brian |
I would have to agree that number is very low. You may have to do the top ends at 200-300hrs. Full rebuild I would say 400 to as high as 800hrs. Depends how hard you run it.
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