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davepnola 04-27-2008 10:18 PM

Carb to EFI conversion ?
 
I have some 97 carb 454 330 hp motors in my Seray 330 DA, I see people sometimes selling a complete Mercruiser EFI setups on Ebay and this site.
What would be involved in updating my motors to EFI ?
Can it be done ??


Are the cams in stock Carb motors different ? I think the heads have oval ports and rectangular style ports ? I think i have Oval and efi manifolds are Rectangle ? Could I bolt this intake to my heads and use the oval gaskets and get a proper sealing ?? Thanks for your response..... Davepnola

Chris Sunkin 04-28-2008 08:11 AM

Lots of work for little benefit in your application. Several thousand dollars each as well for complete setups with ECM's. Plus, if you buy it used, you may end up with pieces that have issues that will need to be sorted out.

You could do a conversion using something like the Accel DFI or the MSD system. They use a throttle plate/injector body that replaces the carburetor. You really won't save any money though. I figure by the time you're done buying parts, modifying components and having a marine EFI tech map the ECM's for you, you'll be about 8 grand deep on a pair. Maybe more.

That would buy alot of carburetors and rebuilds.

Noise Pollution 04-28-2008 09:26 AM

I have to agree it would be a lot of work. Not sure if there would be any gains.
I do have a complete 502 mpi fuel injection set up for sale. Make offer. Its off an 01 motor with rectangle ports. If you are interested send me an email and I can send pictures.

Tow-N-One 04-28-2008 09:36 AM

What if he used an EFI setup for an oval port motor. The only way it would benafit is the ease of fuel injection. Doubt there would be a performace gain.

Chris Sunkin 04-28-2008 09:56 AM

The 330 isn't really a good candidate for performance gains. At least any noticeable gains. If you went up by 50 HP per, I think all you'd really notice would be a minor bump in midrange and a mile or two on top. That would take cams and some other work. More power than that and you'd be over-stressing that low-po bottom end.

The EFI will give you a bit better midrange cruising economy and most likely more trouble-free operation. The downside is that EFI isn't bulletproof and when it does fail, it takes alot more time and $$ to get back working than carbs do. You'd also have to cruise around the world sebveral times to recoup the fuel savings. ;)

Chris Sunkin 04-28-2008 11:24 AM

This could be a deal for someone looking to convert. The Kinsler stuff is first-class.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...-o8143-en.html

davepnola 04-28-2008 02:13 PM

I could do the install my self and diagnose it if needed. My concern is not performance but Safety with carb motors . Fuel injection is more of a closed fuel system . Did they make EFI motors with the oval ports. Look at this setup. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...244450805&rd=1 would this work . My boat came with the Efi option my year , I just do not have it and would rather the efi setup.

oreo11zeus 04-28-2008 02:19 PM

Efi Rocks
 
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Running EFI on my 572's with AZSM throttle bodies - its not cheap but either is gas. I think you can save in the long run

Tow-N-One 04-28-2008 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by davepnola (Post 2540766)
I could do the install my self and diagnose it if needed. My concern is not performance but Safety with carb motors . Fuel injection is more of a closed fuel system . Did they make EFI motors with the oval ports. Look at this setup. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...244450805&rd=1 would this work . My boat came with the Efi option my year , I just do not have it and would rather the efi setup.

All the 454 mag, 502 mag intakes that are that style, are square port. If you are heart set on it, you will need one off of a 454 EFI. The throtle body (if you are looking at it from the top) will be off the center of the right side. All the mag's are off of the front like you have pictured. The picture below is the system you will need.

Tow-N-One 04-28-2008 03:43 PM

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These are square port.


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