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aaronniquette 03-07-2011 06:32 PM

2003 500 efi black transom
 
i have 500 efi and have ran the boat at lake tahoe all of its life 6800 foot elevatiin. I brought the boat down to lake mead at 1100 foot elevation and put new battries in it. I went out and ran it. The boat ran perfect 5100 spinning 30 pitch props. When I pulled the boat out on the trailer I noticed a very black transom. The fuel in the boat was 4 months old. I added 15 gallons fresh 91 fuel to the boat. could the black on the back be from marginal fuel? Or the elevation change? the boat did not run as if it had any issues.

Powerquest_Baby!! 03-07-2011 09:30 PM

Personally I would never run an engine at 5100 rpm with 4 month old gas. Todays fuel degrades so quickly and its just not worth the risk. I always add new fuel and still keep the rpm's around 4k the first time out. Detonation is not a pretty sound!
This doesnt answer your question but I thought I would mention it.

Griff 03-08-2011 01:41 AM

Run 87 octane fuel in 500efi's. It will make the most power and burn the most completely. Higher octanes will not give any better performance and will leave a sooty transom. 4 month old fuel is fine as long as its not ethanol/E10. If its E10, it may have some water in it, but that won't cause the sooty transom.

ezstriper 03-08-2011 08:56 AM

factory EFI's are pretty rich to start with....

GoFastSonic 03-08-2011 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 3344961)
Run 87 octane fuel in 500efi's. It will make the most power and burn the most completely. Higher octanes will not give any better performance and will leave a sooty transom. 4 month old fuel is fine as long as its not ethanol/E10. If its E10, it may have some water in it, but that won't cause the sooty transom.

WHAT HE SAID:drink:

STV_Keith 03-08-2011 06:46 PM

I can't comment specifically on the 500EFI, but we tested a 500HP and it was 11.6:1 A/F at idle. VERY rich. Idles just as nice at 13.0:1 and I thought that was still conservative and could have gone leaner.

Jpzaluski 03-08-2011 10:34 PM

As these guys have pointed out... I too was always of the mindset that I'd run 91+ octane "just to be on the safe side". I had the same very black transom problem. Switched to straight 87 on the advice of a friend and it literally cut in half the amount of soot on the back of the boat. Big difference for me.

aaronniquette 03-08-2011 11:08 PM

dirty transom
 
Thanks fo all the replies, I feel the same on the fuel grade.the boat runs perfect. I hooked a DDT to it today and no codes.I also did a leak down over the winter and all cylenders were holding in the high 90sout of 100 psi. We all know that MAP will be adversly affected by poor engine condition.

rexcramer1 03-13-2011 03:13 PM

Since you changed the battery it may have run extra rich for a short period of time until the computer "relearned" the parameters for your engine and elevation as well

J.B. Marshall 03-13-2011 08:19 PM

I have twin 500 EFI's and have always had some soot on the transom. Spoke to Merc help line years back and he told me that is was normal, they set them to run a little rich. A little rich is better than lean for sure.

STV_Keith 03-14-2011 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by rexcramer1 (Post 3349344)
Since you changed the battery it may have run extra rich for a short period of time until the computer "relearned" the parameters for your engine and elevation as well

There is nothing to relearn. These engines do not have O2 sensors for feedback.

billeickmann 03-17-2011 08:59 AM

Is it worth having them re-programed to get burn less fuel and have less soot on the boat? With gas prices getting higher and higher all the time, I would not mind saving a little gas. Could that help performance?

CIG3 03-17-2011 10:47 AM

I think that leaning them out at idle would be a good idea. Not only does it save on cleaning the transom, those guys with alot of idling will be happy to not load plugs up all the time as well. 13:1 would be a nice consevative start.

That is where I set up my carb. 500. never had an issue in 150 hours.

STV_Keith 03-22-2011 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by billeickmann (Post 3352469)
Is it worth having them re-programed to get burn less fuel and have less soot on the boat? With gas prices getting higher and higher all the time, I would not mind saving a little gas. Could that help performance?

I have not yet seen what the stock air/fuel curve looks like on the 500EFI's, but the 500HP before it was 11.6:1 A/F at idle and never crested 12.0 until after 3000rpm.

What you really need is a wideband O2 monitor to see where your engine is at now. Once you know how lean or rich it is, then you'll know what you have to modify and gain.

Bad Bird 03-26-2011 08:08 AM

ECM's?
 

Originally Posted by aaronniquette (Post 3344642)
i have 500 efi and have ran the boat at lake tahoe all of its life 6800 foot elevatiin. I brought the boat down to lake mead at 1100 foot elevation and put new battries in it. I went out and ran it. The boat ran perfect 5100 spinning 30 pitch props. When I pulled the boat out on the trailer I noticed a very black transom. The fuel in the boat was 4 months old. I added 15 gallons fresh 91 fuel to the boat. could the black on the back be from marginal fuel? Or the elevation change? the boat did not run as if it had any issues.


I have a pair of '05 525 EFI's in my boat and I also called Mercury Racing. They told me to have the ECM's removed by a certified Mercruiser dealer and send them back to Mercury and they would reprogram them, (under warranty), to make the engine run leaner at idle speeds. They told me their original set up was a little too rich at idle RPM's causing sooting on the transom. They are currently on their way to Wisconsin as I type this message.


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