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sprink58 10-01-2011 07:47 PM

Any one used or heard of this Engine Builder?
 
http://motorworksengines.com/index.php?pr=MARINE_CHEVY

The 406 and 383's look very attractive.

Philm 10-02-2011 11:06 AM

you get what you pay for. Great prices, but at that price, I wouldnt expect them to live very long.

mattmarshall86 10-03-2011 07:47 AM

builder
 
im curious to see how it is as well. I would love to spend 5 grande on a motor but i just dont have it. But i also would rather keep saving and wait an extra year before i get into a motor that has problems left an right

Ebay Ed 10-03-2011 08:54 AM

" cute " website what is that little flashy thingy i think i would runs as fast i could away from them not much info on the site

A.O. Razor 10-03-2011 10:03 AM

Does not look like a serious builder, so I would not touch it. A good 509 for 5 grand? Get real.

mattmarshall86 10-03-2011 05:23 PM

builder
 
all i needed to hear!

Mariah212Z 10-08-2011 10:50 PM

Little over 5G
 

Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3518464)
Does not look like a serious builder, so I would not touch it. A good 509 for 5 grand? Get real.

Here is another crate option.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engi...44208/10002/-1

http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...rine-mbp4960ct

fkboatman 10-09-2011 06:36 PM

I have bein in the boat business hear in washington sense the early 90 s. dont walk away, just run from above mentioned engine shop.

mattmarshall86 10-09-2011 08:41 PM

blue print
 
I was interested in the blue print stuff for sure but then i hear bad stories that Marshall engines( who builds them) doesnt back there work. I have heard some bad stories. Any body have good luck?

powerplayinc 10-10-2011 12:11 PM

Wow I cant even buy the parts anywhere near that, never mind any labor!

befu 10-10-2011 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mariah212Z (Post 3522995)

Good thread! So JEGS is a large name that I seem to remember from the car days. They offer blueprint engines and GM crate motors. But if I do a search for marine, only the blueprint motors come up and mostly over 1hp per cubic inch.

then I see a 454 HO gen 6 gm crate motor, 420 HP, pan to intake for $5,500. Does that work in a boat or do you need something designed for boat use? (Other than the included truck pan).

heck, the 502 HO 450Hp is at $6700 delivered.

What is up with the GM crate motors?

Brian

jeff1000man 10-10-2011 11:25 PM

you get what you paid for. Most of those engines don't make enough HP to hurt themselves and they will last for a while with conservative use. You need to put a good eshaust on them to actualy get the HP's that they advertise because those engines are rated on an open header on a dyno. Have to check the cam anyway to see if you can get away with the stock exhaust.

They are not high end marine engines like a Merc or a custom build, but bang for the buck, they are OK.

But if you are lookign for turn key catalog style engines, then you can probably help out a fello OSO advertiser and buy one from him, get the reputaion, and only spend a few dollars more.

Like you heard on this thread all ready, some of these things you can't buy the parts for ewhat they are selling them for.

jeff1000man 10-10-2011 11:28 PM

THe money saved on this one is the flat tappet cam.

Its a $100 cam vs $500 cam
and its $100 set of lifters vs an $800 set of lifters.

Probably saving $200 per sat of pistons because they are buying in bulk

Same with crank rods and pistons. They probably use a cheaper valve and spring.

At least the rotating assembly is forged though.

Full dress engine for just under 8K. I think yo ucan get one built with good stuff for around 10K.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Blueprint-Engi...44208/10002/-1

jeff1000man 10-10-2011 11:31 PM

This one says CAST crank.

Might want to check with JEGS and see if there is a typo in their catalog.

This will make a big price difference as well.

The engines are not the same.

http://www.blueprintengines.com/inde...rine-mbp4960ct

mattmarshall86 10-11-2011 07:36 AM

you have to type in blue print marine motors... they have motors set up for a marine application. But after i researched them I didnt hear anything good. Alot about trouble with backing there product (marshall engines not jegs) jegs just sells them when you have problems you have to send it back to marshall e
ngines.

BluePrintEngines 10-11-2011 09:54 AM

Hi guys - my name is Dru and I am the Product Manager for BluePrint Engines. If you have any questions about our engine configurations please feel free to get a hold of me and I'd be happy to address/answer any questions you have! My number is 1.800.483.4263

jeff1000man 10-11-2011 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by BluePrintEngines (Post 3524627)
Hi guys - my name is Dru and I am the Product Manager for BluePrint Engines. If you have any questions about our engine configurations please feel free to get a hold of me and I'd be happy to address/answer any questions you have! My number is 1.800.483.4263

WHy not just post a spec sheet? It's not like there is some kind of mystery about how to configure a marine engine.

At least this way you could throw it out there and let some of the bigger builders on here have a look see and say yeah or nay.

Probably sell a bunch of engines since you are at the price point you are at.

Just a suggestion would be to add a roller cam option, this is BIG in the powerboat world. And to spec out what valves springs etc you are using. If these guys that are looking to upgrade had a better idea of what you are putting inside your castings, it could only help your cause, or you could make it more in line with what these guys are looking for and then take advantage of your purchasing power.

Thanks for jumping in.

jeff1000man 10-11-2011 10:11 AM

Or become an advertiser here on OSO, and build/ configure a special build just for this site. If you warranty your stuff, you would sell a bunch of them.

befu 10-11-2011 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by jeff1000man (Post 3524422)
you get what you paid for. Most of those engines don't make enough HP to hurt themselves and they will last for a while with conservative use. You need to put a good eshaust on them to actualy get the HP's that they advertise because those engines are rated on an open header on a dyno. Have to check the cam anyway to see if you can get away with the stock exhaust.

They are not high end marine engines like a Merc or a custom build, but bang for the buck, they are OK.

But if you are lookign for turn key catalog style engines, then you can probably help out a fello OSO advertiser and buy one from him, get the reputaion, and only spend a few dollars more.

is this relating to the GM performance crate motors? If so, I agree they are mild builds at 0.9 HP per cubic Inch. But some of us want a motor that will just run and run and not be on the edge all the time. Will these GM crate motors work or does GM make a marine crate motor? Something similar to the old 330 or 420 mercruiser 454's.

Oh, and which OSO advertiser please? There are several engine builders in the marine links section including some very nice high dollar builders, which is not in my market. Didn't see anything under 500hp and hate wasting peoples time asking questions about something they don't do.

Brian

jeff1000man 10-11-2011 11:03 AM

Change the flywheel, add the oil remote adapter. Maybe change the oil pan.


The only weak spot might be the valves, but keep the timing conservative, and it should run forever just like a merc.

IMO, I have never used one. Internals advertised are forged components.

Your distributor, wiring etc should all transfer over, and this one has fuel pump boss on engine block.

http://www.jegs.com/i/GM-Performance...oductId=752313

Put a 750 carb on it.

AdieMoss 10-17-2011 02:50 AM

dont trust those kind of sites!

kubelwagonman 11-15-2011 07:36 AM

marshall engines
 
:eek:let me tell yu a long story short
im a service center in ftw texas and i was replacing a 4.3 roller motor for a customer(freeze damage) and tryed :"marshall"
ai usually use rapido for my stock replacements an been very happy,this guy wanted to save a buck so,.,,,,
after speaking with this yahoo on the phone an listening to his own patting on the back and bragging on his engines reluctantly i purchased said engine
'the 1 week shippping turned into 3 with 2 seperate lies about why,when and where the engine as'
i had to threarem cancelling order,i shoulda known something was up when he wouldnt take paypal!!
i finnaly get a REAL tracking number an the enginres on its way from nj......when it arrives on the truck i told the driver "THATS NOT MINE"
well friends,this "awesome build" was on a USED TIRE,strapped to a busted up pallett with a strap and a little bit of plastic on it
upon further inspection.....no oil pump,partial gasket set an NO OIL OR ASSY LUBE could be seen anywhere
i TRIED contacting this yankee arsehole about the motor an he NEVER answered my calls no returned my messages
i disputed charges with my credit card co,.,,on last day of grace period he replied an guees what,,,,,,all i complained about he turned it around saying he tried callin me numerous times an my phone didnt work,which by the way is a cell which i carry at all times an number hasnt changed in over 10 years.........he told the bank he wasnt gouing to refund the money untill i sent motor back in which i wanted to do from day 1 an couldnt,.....i sent the motor back AT MY EXPENSE and as of today,1 yr later,my bank still hasnt been refunded so tell all your friends,aquaintances an even enemies about this yahoo to RUN FAR FAST AS YU CAN!!

Centsless 11-15-2011 10:33 PM

we all like a bargain........ but if its to good to be true......... usually it is


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