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cloudmaster_321 03-28-2012 09:53 PM

Questions about adding inside hydraulic steering
 
I'm in the process of removing my old mechanical helm and cable to install the inside hydraulic system. I currently have an add on system by Marine Machine. I'm looking at purchasing one of two systems CP Performance has for sale. One is the basic kit, the other the deluxe. The difference being the deluxe uses an external power steering resevoir, the basic not. CP wants me to use the deluxe, but it's just going to be a more complex install and I also have limited options for mounting the resevoir and making it higher than the stock pump with my shallow boat.

I have a buddy with a 26 velocity with full hydraulic and he does not have the remote resevoir, but I believe he has only one external ram vs. my 2 ram single drive. Just looking for additional opinions on adding the hydraulic inside kit with or without the additional resevoir. Thanks.

c_deezy 03-28-2012 09:59 PM

You don't need the add-on external reservoir.

Installed the dual ram Mayfair system, and removed the external reservoir and had no issue. Full hydro to the helm.

swan2 03-29-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 3651351)
I'm in the process of removing my old mechanical helm and cable to install the inside hydraulic system. I currently have an add on system by Marine Machine. I'm looking at purchasing one of two systems CP Performance has for sale. One is the basic kit, the other the deluxe. The difference being the deluxe uses an external power steering resevoir, the basic not. CP wants me to use the deluxe, but it's just going to be a more complex install and I also have limited options for mounting the resevoir and making it higher than the stock pump with my shallow boat.

I have a buddy with a 26 velocity with full hydraulic and he does not have the remote resevoir, but I believe he has only one external ram vs. my 2 ram single drive. Just looking for additional opinions on adding the hydraulic inside kit with or without the additional resevoir. Thanks.

Hey there Cloudmaster im in the process of ordereing the dual ram single outdrive addon kit and do the inside later. My question is how well did this work, and could you tell a big difference when you installed the add on??? I dont have the money to do the completed system right now thanks for the help. :coolcowboy:

cloudmaster_321 03-29-2012 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by swan2 (Post 3651599)
Hey there Cloudmaster im in the process of ordereing the dual ram single outdrive addon kit and do the inside later. My question is how well did this work, and could you tell a big difference when you installed the add on??? I dont have the money to do the completed system right now thanks for the help. :coolcowboy:

I didn't drive the boat with the stock system. I bought the boat used, and it already had the Marine Machine add on system. I can tell you one thing though, coming into the docks can be tricky as the steering at idle is stiff and your not able to make quick corrections. I'm hoping the full system will rectify that.

swan2 03-29-2012 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 3651855)
I didn't drive the boat with the stock system. I bought the boat used, and it already had the Marine Machine add on system. I can tell you one thing though, coming into the docks can be tricky as the steering at idle is stiff and your not able to make quick corrections. I'm hoping the full system will rectify that.

Thanks for the reply back. I think im going to give it a try like I said im unable to purchase it all at one time. One more question did the steering seem tight at higher speeds? I have already had my gimble and all the bellows replaced just want to tighten things up and have a little more control as my boat does reach the 80mph mark on gps. since I have added more hp.. again thank you for replying.

cloudmaster_321 03-29-2012 09:49 PM

oh yeah, it's definately stable and tight at speed. No problems there; granted your mechanical helm and cable are good.......

ezstriper 03-30-2012 09:22 AM

I just did the same thing....used their std kit..BUT you will need the tool to do the line ends..trust me !!! also some machine marine uses a different size inside fitting to ck sizes before ordering...

swan2 03-30-2012 09:58 AM

Thanks guys I will be ordering my kit soon and trying it out cant wait. Ill let you all know how it turns out. will be doing the job myself to try and save some money. :coolcowboy:

cloudmaster_321 03-30-2012 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by ezstriper (Post 3652412)
I just did the same thing....used their std kit..BUT you will need the tool to do the line ends..trust me !!! also some machine marine uses a different size inside fitting to ck sizes before ordering...

Yeah, I already have the -6 AN mandrel for making lines here at work. So that will make it easy. Pretty common stuff for aircraft fittings.

You didn't get talked into the deluxe kit with the resevoir?

ROB FREEMAN 04-18-2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by cloudmaster_321 (Post 3651855)
I didn't drive the boat with the stock system. I bought the boat used, and it already had the Marine Machine add on system. I can tell you one thing though, coming into the docks can be tricky as the steering at idle is stiff and your not able to make quick corrections. I'm hoping the full system will rectify that.

just a thought . you probably can fix the stiffness by enlarging the power steering pump orfice ?? helps move more fluid at low rpm , just trying to help


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