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007joe 05-03-2012 11:38 AM

Steaming engine help
 
Okay, so my buddy has a 1987 Scarab Excel with a 330 hp 454/ Alpha.
Long story short, last year he had the engine replaced with a jasper, boat ran great but intermittently throws steam through the exhaust.
The manifolds and risers were replaced less than 20 hours ago, impeller also, and the boat shoots plenty of water out.
it doesn't run hot either.
What could it possibly be?
The old motor never did this.
The mechanic that replaced the engine has some theory's, but nothing solid.
We are changing the water circulater pump this weekend and firing it to see if that improves anything.
Thanks for the help!

olmako20 05-03-2012 12:02 PM

would it steam randomly or after a hard run? would it steam only when it was cold out?

007joe 05-03-2012 12:06 PM

It steams randomly, cold, hot, there's really no constant, it will even stop steaming randomly.

olmako20 05-03-2012 12:10 PM

raw watercooled? have you changed the thermostat recently?

007joe 05-03-2012 12:12 PM

Raw water cooled, thermostat changed 2x since engine was replaced...

MER Performance 05-03-2012 12:25 PM

Does the engine miss or change Rpm when this occurs?
Have you examined the thermostat housing for proper flow of water? Say when the thermostat is closed. Depending on what type you have the spring loaded check balls could be sticking. Some housings have 4 outlets and some 2. If there are 2 of course they will connect to the manifold lower fitting. If 4 I think the outside ones with the check balls go to the elbow, the other 2 enter the manifold.
The manifold-riser gasket, is it full open flow or 4 open , 2 restricted small holes?

007joe 05-05-2012 09:26 AM

The engine runs excellent through the steam. I don't think the temp even rises, but I don't recall 100% as it was last season. We eyeballed the thermostat housing, but I'm not sure how to check for proper flow. He has, the check balls, and they seem to be functioning 100% as well. The manifold riser gasket is the other thing we will be checking/changing, which gasket is better/worse or right/wrong?
Thanks for all the replies!

007joe 06-07-2012 08:57 AM

We replaced the check balls and bolt etc, also changed the water circulating pump, which was in terrible condition. Nothing has helped the temp was getting close to 180, but stayed there, a new symptom occurred, it seems the manifolds are getting very hot and when we shut it down you can hear water gargling, any ideas???
we are breaking down the risers this evening to see about the gaskets.
thanks

FogduckerIII 06-07-2012 09:40 AM

Just a thought, when you changed the impellor in the leg did you check the water tube from the leg up to the engine? Could be partially blocked and causing intermitent slowing of water flow?

88Fount33 06-07-2012 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by 007joe (Post 3704707)
We replaced the check balls and bolt etc, also changed the water circulating pump, which was in terrible condition. Nothing has helped the temp was getting close to 180, but stayed there, a new symptom occurred, it seems the manifolds are getting very hot and when we shut it down you can hear water gargling, any ideas???
we are breaking down the risers this evening to see about the gaskets.
thanks

This is my internet guess, blockage there.

007joe 06-07-2012 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by FogduckerIII (Post 3704734)
Just a thought, when you changed the impellor in the leg did you check the water tube from the leg up to the engine? Could be partially blocked and causing intermitent slowing of water flow?

The mechanic that did the engine swapped pulled checked and/or flushed every hose on the engine


Originally Posted by 88Fount33 (Post 3704754)
This is my internet guess, blockage there.

We pulled off the riser's and elbow's and found that on one side there are 2 of the restricter gaskets, and on that side one was blocked pretty good, on the opposite side there was the regular gaskets up to the top, then at the elbow, there was the restricter.

From what I found online the top should have a restricter gasket and the others should be open type. Is there harm in replacing with all the open type? and could a blockage on one side cause steam from both? thanks all!

mr3dman 06-07-2012 09:28 PM

the restrictors are there to equalize the water pressure between the risers. Some people run both open with no problems and some have one hot riser from switching to the open on both. You can give it a shot but it sounds like you have something else going on. Just a guess here but double check you have the t-stat in correctly (spring side toward engine). If it is upside down you could be getting overheated and not show it on the temp guage because the temp sender is just after the t-stat


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