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Darn thunderbolt Headaches
So the season comes to an end and so does one of my engins as far as spark goes... Went to drop it in for a last run and no start ! Gas is there but no spark from the coil ! Wire at coil reads about 10 volt but battery shows 12.4 ??? Replaced the sender in the distributor and the coil itself and zero spark still... But again does show 10 volt with ignition on ... Does the coil need to read 12 or above too to Mean the thunderbolt to get going or ??? Wonder where to go from here - do I try and figure why the wire only gets 10 volt or just forget that and move on from that ? Would it run with only 10 volt I wonder ? If so I will move on to the nxt possibilities ?
If it was the kill switch , would the engin still turn over or just a dead key like it was in gear kinda deal ? I'm at a standstill - no idea where to go from here |
try to switch from one engine to another
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I have never been happier then the day I dumped that thunderbolt stuff.
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It needs over 10v while cranking, my guess is it has about 8 while your cranking and 10 with the key on. Most kill switches are not wired to the starter just ignition. May have a loose or corroded wire. Check the cannon plug for loose pins.
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mercury has a troubleshooting flowsheet,it makes it easy to find the problem.
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I have 525 sc with thunderbolt 4 with rev limiters. I had a similar problem with low voltage due to a bad limiter. The merc troubleshooting chart doesn't include the rev limiter that's external on tb4 ignitions.
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I have the hp books, hotrod ding your marine 350 book and it states the IV's did not have a limiter but the v's do..... Which is correct? Cause my new motor won't spin past 4700, which is where the stock 260 merc stayed..... And the new motor has way more potential.
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I had something similar as well. Rev Limiter went bad and would cause a no spark condition.
Sometimes the TBIV's had rev limiters, sometimes they didn't. I worked on a boat where one motor did, one didn't. |
Great. Thanks. Guess I have to put in an aftermarket ignition
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post your research and let us know the outcome
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Some tb4 have a rev limiter called overspeed module under the amplifier module. The limiter is wired between the amp and coil or pickup and amp, can't remember. If you find a old TB4 cable without the limiter, install it to bypass the limiter for testing.
I had all 3 go bad this year. 2 went within a week and the third a month later. Symptoms were low coil voltage/ dead ignition and the third had a off idle miss. |
if you suspect low voltage to coil as athe problem run you a quick temporary jumper lead from battery positive to coil positive,just for the test
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Originally Posted by dodgezilla04
(Post 3786998)
I have the hp books, hotrod ding your marine 350 book and it states the IV's did not have a limiter but the v's do..... Which is correct? Cause my new motor won't spin past 4700, which is where the stock 260 merc stayed..... And the new motor has way more potential.
If you were hitting the rev limiter, you would definately know it. Its feels like engine has misfire. |
Well - after bypassing the kill switches, swapping the thunderbolt units ... Still zero spark coming out of the coil ! Turns out all it was - bad ground on the thunderbolt !! Bypassed the ground that attached to the bolt on the exhaust - put a solid ground wire to the engin block and now getting enough spark to light up the moon :). Thanks for your help guys - much appreciated !!
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glad you got it figured out,as i stated before,the mercury flowsheet makes it easy to diagnose,the dist ground is one of the first things they say to check.
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