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sprink58 01-30-2013 05:31 PM

454 12.75" 153 tooth Flywheel
 
My brother is stubborn and will get this done. Formula F3 with 454 BBC thru Pre Alpha No. 1. He needs to use small bell housing and 12.75" Flywheel to make it work.

Is the flywheel he needs to use?

http://www.citycratemotors.com/scrip...product=324487

mike tkach 01-30-2013 08:53 PM

sprink,what year is your engine?

sprink58 01-30-2013 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 3858700)
sprink,what year is your engine?

'87

sawalot 01-31-2013 10:29 PM

I am also working on a similar project. I made a spacer plate 1 inch thick the same shape of the bell housing on the outside and cut the inside to fit my 454 fly wheel. I am replacing a 4cyl for the 454

sprink58 02-01-2013 06:14 AM

I told him that I thought it would be simpler to go ahead and find a decent Alpha I inner plate...like they are every where and bolt it to the Pre Alpha outer. That way he could use the larger bell housing. His concern is that he would have to change the steering ram.....really?...this is a problem?

So what!!! I told him that he's swapping in a 454 in place of a 350...make it work...the steering rams are every where also!!

motor 02-01-2013 06:31 AM

Having done a lot of engine swaps through the years ,I didn't know there was a 12.750 externally balanced flywheel readily available. I don't see why it won't work .A bellhousing would be the right way to do it but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Are you going to be running thru transom exhaust.

mike tkach 02-01-2013 06:38 AM

sprnk,the flywheel in the link is the one you need.

GTOKILLER 02-01-2013 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3858539)

Correct, thats a tough little part to find. Im a dealer for several different HP parts companies & City Chevrolet is the only place Ive seen that one at a good price. I looked & tried to save you a couple bucks. Sorry, best of luck!

f_inscreenname 02-01-2013 11:13 AM

I don't think you have the right one (in your link). That one is for a one piece seal and yours is a 1987 with a 2 piece seal. This one is also neutral balanced. Your Mark IV motor is externally balanced.
I went through this about a year ago matching a Mark IV 454 up with a Volvo Penta bellhousing.
Had to buy a Rhino 167531 flywheel and have it re-balanced for a 454. Take the new flywheel and any size 454 flywheel (or even a flex plate for an automatic transmission) to a balancer and tell them to match it. The new flywheel is only about 75 bucks but being they have to add weight, balancing will probably cost you twice that.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1960/48782567.jpg

PS, make sure you tell them that it is for a boat and they don't have to worry about the clutch face. That way they can bolt weight to it and not have to use that super expensive metal.
GEN IV 1965-1990 (2pc seal), GEN V 1990-1995, and GEN VI in 1996

motor 02-01-2013 05:49 PM

Been a while back but this place made me a flywheel for a specific application at a very reasonable price. Flywheel in link you provided won't work

www.innovationeng.com

picklenjim 02-01-2013 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by f_inscreenname (Post 3859595)
I don't think you have the right one (in your link). That one is for a one piece seal and yours is a 1987 with a 2 piece seal. This one is also neutral balanced. Your Mark IV motor is externally balanced.

Mark, That paragraph is only stateing what to go by when ordering and not the particular one he is ordering. He is ordering the one in the specs below that paragraph.

All Chevy small-block and big-block engines with one-piece crankshaft seal require an externally balanced flywheel or flexplate. Find the right part to match your engine.
Year of engine: 1979-90
Outside diameter: 12.75"
Crank flange bolt pattern: 3.58"
Clutch diameter: 10.4
Starter ring gear teeth: 153
Technical notes: Lightweight nodular iron. Counterweighted for externally balanced 454 engines. Use with balancer P/N 3963530.

I believe that would be the correct flywheel.

FIXX 02-01-2013 07:24 PM

Fixx
 
mark,,all big block flywheels 1 and 2 piece seals are the same bolt pattern..


john have your brother use a bravo inner plate,,you will have 2 extra holes in it..this way you could use the bigger flywheel..if he use;s the smaller flywheel thet are harder to turn the engine over and hew will also have to change the starter..

sprink58 02-01-2013 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3859839)
mark,,all big block flywheels 1 and 2 piece seals are the same bolt pattern..


john have your brother use a bravo inner plate,,you will have 2 extra holes in it..this way you could use the bigger flywheel..if he use;s the smaller flywheel thet are harder to turn the engine over and hew will also have to change the starter..

Mike...I told him...stubborn 54 year old little brother...thinks he knows it all LOL!!

f_inscreenname 02-02-2013 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3859839)
mark,,all big block flywheels 1 and 2 piece seals are the same bolt pattern..

The bolt pattern is but the weight is not the same.

dereknkathy 02-10-2013 01:27 PM

then there is always the half-a$$ option of the little add-on balance plate to a neutral-balanced wheel. i didn't now anybody made a 454 small wheel...you wwill need a serious starter. buick 455. rebuilders number is 3567. or take 3664 low-torque chebby starter and put hi-torque armature and field housing in it.


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