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This advice from HS can save alot of time. I was too focused on each cell when I started tuning, vac/rpm/bpw/afr, Bob showed me exactly what HS described which is to use the graphs to make smooth changes to multiple cells. Other than that, there were a few initial hours in the boat using the laptop to make changes. Once I got the hang of it, as Arctic has said, to make changes in the garage or to have multiple test tunes ready was much easier.
Starting with a tune that is close shouldn't be a problem. Bob will council you not to touch 90% of the tables.
Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
(Post 3889650)
It's not actually a Merc computer, it's an antique GM unit that is extremely limited when compared to modern aftermarket EFI ststems. If you don't mind driving around with a note pad and a laptop, looking at 2 different screens, then stopping, downloading, and then waiting 5+ minutes for your changes to upload and then repeating... Then it's not a bad deal. It is fairly easy though because the system has such limited resolution there isn't much fine tuning. Just be careful when you start the wot tuning. I'd start conservative on the timing in case you're a little lean. Also, sometimes it's easier and more intuitive to tune with the graph instead of the cells. Make a percentage change on one cell that you know needs to be adjusted and then go to the graph and try to blend everything around that peak, or valley. Once you get started you'll get lots of help here. Shoot Articfriends a PM, or ask him to post here. He's got a ton of good MEFI tuning info and experience.
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Originally Posted by 4bus
(Post 3888878)
Are you taking about the cmd units?
I thought about it, but two possible problems with the system for my application 1. Requires a permanent O2 sensor, because it constantly monitors. O2s do not like water, and are not exactly cheap to replace. 2. If the system fails it will revert back to what ever you have, stock tune, which may not be safe for my new mods 1. While an O2 sensor must be present during tuning, you can remove it once you are happy with the tune and turn off the AutoTune feature. It will then run in open loop with the adjusted tune you created. 2. If the O2 sensor fails, the AutoTune will stop running and adjusting, but any trims already created will still be active.
Originally Posted by abmotorman
(Post 3889848)
Next winter i'm plan on pulling my motors to port heads, bigger cams...general refresh. Unless the stock tune is extremely rich I will need to adjust fuel i'm sure. In preparation, this summer I plan on capturing A/F data using some type of wide band setup??? I'd prefer to have something that gives me gauges for the dash, way to record an hour of events and maybe compatible with someones autotune function like Dynojet's. The graph tuning is something I prefer. Question, does anyone know of a A/F system that will give me the gauge, recording and compatibility I desire. The first 2 are probably more important since the MEFburn really doesn't scare me that much.
If you decide to add the CMD Marine unit later, just connect the Wideband2 to the CMD Marine unit using a CAN to CAN connection cable (#76950145) and then you can enable the AutoTune feature with the hardware you already have.
Originally Posted by Trash
(Post 3890955)
I still run the same AFR unit as you, the MTX-L. Works great.
Often times the rpm/MAP points lie in between 2-4 cells on the table. In this case you may need to adjust the 4 cells appropriately to get the desired results. |
Some days later, im on the same point to order mefiburn. Something new in this projekt ?
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I haven't been on this site for quite some time, curious why all the misinformation. The mefi 3 and 4 can be programmed real-time without stopping and shutting down the engine. The mefi 4 can run closed loop wide band. I had pondered a couple of years ago to write a strategy for internal self-tune but I really don't need it and got bored with the concept. Mefi1,2 require a shutdown for a few seconds then takes a few seconds to download changes.
Neither have much resolution but will still work in plenty of applications. Mefi1 can't do boost, mefi2 can do boost although just as archaic as mefi3 as just a multiplier based on boost xy and not rpm/kpa xyz like a mefi4. Sheesh, never understood the bashing of mefi computers. The mefi1 first showed in boats in 93 but is almost identical strategy code wise to an 87 chev truck computer with the addition of EEPROM. The mefi4 can do almost anything the aftermarket would want. I've done 1500hp blown marine with it years and years ago. It can run 8 coils, just about any crank/cam trigger you want including a std gm distributor. I generally use it with 60-2 crank and 4x cam and dual knock sensors so the ecu can retard ONLY the cylinder that is knocking. The only real downfall of the mefi4 is it doesn't have the capacity to do sequential fuel. The mefi5,6 does. It seems alot of people don't know the huge power a mefi controller has. example mefi4b, 8 coil drivers/sequential spark, boost tables to 200kpa(~15lbs) adjustable to 9000rpm fuel and spark, dual fuel available, accurate and complete knock control programmable to allow at what point you want to enrich to aid in controlling runaway detonation. Fuel pressure monitoring to enrich in case you are starting to clog a fuel filter or lose a pump and programmable limp mode so you can look at datalog or gauges to see. Oil pressure vs rpm safety similar to fuel pressure settings. EGT, etc etc. Anyway, sorry to bore y'all. |
I'll ask this again. Anyone near Milwaukee have experience with this program?
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I'm getting ready for my winter project. I plan on ordering the MefiBurn software. My ? is about the O2 bings. I contacted CMI about welding the bings in the tails. Do I need bings in all 4 tails? Do I need just 1 O2 setup and after I tune 1 engine put O2 in other engine? I plan on using live and then closed.
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I would do 1 per engine, trick is to get them to live...much talk about that...we killed 3 in 2 hours run time...just the exhaust system/cam combo and revision...get it tuned then remove them...
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any news? you give up or have a success story to tell?
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4bus....any updates on your experience with Mefiburn?
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Yes.
I have now the the MefiBurn Software and Hardware. Very Cool and simpel to work with it. MefiBurn load the Files from the ECM to the PC. 10sec. TunerPro modify the Files. MefiBurn load the Files from PC to the ECM. 10sec. ScanPro are like Diacom not for twin, but the display for singel are bigger and nicer. I have used it on my twin 502EFI from 1993. I modifyed only the Spark and the Fule Tabel upper end. I have no Dyno in Germany, so i modifyed only the tabel over 4600 RPM. The rest of the fuel tabel are stock. And i reduced all the lower RPM high spark advance 40+ to only 35*. The total Spark are now higher than stock. Boat runs 9kmh faster now. Im happy with this small changes in the software, and the big changes in speed. This are my best performance upgrade for the $. |
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