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Cory H 04-07-2014 04:34 PM

I feel your best fuel economy would be achieved by using a Quadrajet and keeping out of the secondaries over the 2bbl.

SB 04-07-2014 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Cory H (Post 4102855)
I feel your best fuel economy would be achieved by using a Quadrajet and keeping out of the secondaries over the 2bbl.

Good thinking...but in real life this doesn't work. The boat won't have enough power to plane with using just the primaries.

I know this, because of I have done this live more than a dozen times. IE: People that tell me secondaries don't open until a higher rpm. I disconnect the secondaries and the boat won't plane. Yup, even 20ft and under boats with very little weight.

The primaries are just to small.

Also, as i referred to...the secondaries do open at planing rpm. Again, if they don't, the boat will not plane.

The load - boat/gear/fuel/etc,etc - is responsible for how much hp you need for X mph. HP used determines how much fuel you use.

bobl 04-08-2014 01:08 PM

For what it's worth, Volvo sells a 5.7 rated at 250HP. It has a 4bbl intake with an adapter and 2bbl holley carb. That same engine with TBI on the same intake is rated at 320 HP. I have converted several from the 2bbl carb to a 4bbl carb. They all picked up a noticeable amount of performance and every owner said the economy improved.

The reason Volvo and Merc offer these packages is strictly price point, not performance or economy. Basically they are detuning the 350 Mag, because the engines are identical other than the fuel system.

SB 04-08-2014 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by bobl (Post 4103305)
For what it's worth, Volvo sells a 5.7 rated at 250HP. It has a 4bbl intake with an adapter and 2bbl holley carb. That same engine with TBI on the same intake is rated at 320 HP. I have converted several from the 2bbl carb to a 4bbl carb. They all picked up a noticeable amount of performance and every owner said the economy improved.

The reason Volvo and Merc offer these packages is strictly price point, not performance or economy. Basically they are detuning the 350 Mag, because the engines are identical other than the fuel system.

Heh Bob, it's CFM.

The Volvo package was good...to up the HP over the Merc set-up.

It used a bigger 2bbl than merc does, but more importantly, as you said, it used an adapter on a 4bbl intake. The adapter and intake both increase airflow a good amt.

I've done a bunch of 2bbl to 4bbl too.........and it's a crazy good upgrade.

The 2bbl stuff, just like when Chevy and other companies did it on V8's, is exactly what you said ....was strictly price point.

Want more power ? Give us extra money.

Blueabyss 04-08-2014 05:06 PM

So SB what do you think about that motor?? The 383 in the link.

Chris

MILD THUNDER 04-08-2014 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Blueabyss (Post 4102183)
This is the engine I am planning on putting the 2 bbl on. I am going to have them put a smaller cam in it for smoother idle and I really don't need all that power. So its not like I am putting a 10k motor in the boat and slapping on the 2 bbl. This is just a budget build using take off parts from my 305.

http://pmcmachine.com/index.php?main...arine&x=58&y=1

Chris

The flat tappet setup, hypeuretic pistons, stamped rockers, and valve springs good for .530 lift, with .462 lift cam, aren't my idea of a great setup, but not surprised with the price of it. 420HP they say, I'd tell them let me bring it to MY dyno, and see if it makes 420HP and 430ft lbs.

phragle 04-08-2014 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Blueabyss (Post 4102183)
This is the engine I am planning on putting the 2 bbl on. I am going to have them put a smaller cam in it for smoother idle and I really don't need all that power. So its not like I am putting a 10k motor in the boat and slapping on the 2 bbl. This is just a budget build using take off parts from my 305.

http://pmcmachine.com/index.php?main...arine&x=58&y=1

Chris

Stay the phuck away from that company!!!!!! THey have a LONG history of changing names and royally screwing anyone that does buisness with them, Your better off taking the briggs and straton off the lawnmower and running that in your boat than one of theirs. dead giveaway to the company is the tacoma and or kent address and 7 year warrenty.

SB 04-08-2014 07:17 PM

Phragle, lay it out brother, tell us how you really feel. LOL.

Sounds like a pass to this company, Time to find another.

phragle 04-08-2014 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4103499)
Phragle, lay it out brother, tell us how you really feel. LOL.

Sounds like a pass to this company, Time to find another.

Well I could have cheered him on and waited for the inevitable 320 page "I got phucked in the azz by an engine builder without so much as a reach around" thread..... But despite what my Ex says, Im really not a sadistic azzhole... (I just play one on tv)

SB 04-08-2014 07:49 PM

Don't let us stop you.


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