Can Headers Save Fuel?
#33
Think of this problem in another light. Your boat, at a given weight will require X hp to travel at Y mph. Regardless of engine it still takes X amount of hp to move the boat at a given speed. Period. To make that amount of hp requires Z amount of fuel (lbs/hr, gal/min etc.) regardless of engine. One engine may make that hp with more to spare, others may be maxed out, but the hull still requires X hp for the given Y speed.
As others have alluded, weight and drag control your fuel consumption more than exhaust manifolds or headers.
Again it amounts to POWER required vs. POWER available.
In the end you are trying to measure with a micrometer and cutting with an axe. Don't buy headers to save fuel would be my recommendation.
As others have alluded, weight and drag control your fuel consumption more than exhaust manifolds or headers.
Again it amounts to POWER required vs. POWER available.
In the end you are trying to measure with a micrometer and cutting with an axe. Don't buy headers to save fuel would be my recommendation.
#34
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As others have alluded, weight and drag control your fuel consumption more than exhaust manifolds or headers.
Again it amounts to POWER required vs. POWER available.
In the end you are trying to measure with a micrometer and cutting with an axe. Don't buy headers to save fuel would be my recommendation.
Again it amounts to POWER required vs. POWER available.
In the end you are trying to measure with a micrometer and cutting with an axe. Don't buy headers to save fuel would be my recommendation.
Your post is dead nuts on.
A cheaper way to boat is leave friends at home. But, that's not always as much fun.
Another is to stop tubing/skiing/wakeboarding but your family may leave you and that's definately not fun.
#35
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Think of this problem in another light. Your boat, at a given weight will require X hp to travel at Y mph. Regardless of engine it still takes X amount of hp to move the boat at a given speed. Period. To make that amount of hp requires Z amount of fuel (lbs/hr, gal/min etc.) regardless of engine. One engine may make that hp with more to spare, others may be maxed out, but the hull still requires X hp for the given Y speed.
As others have alluded, weight and drag control your fuel consumption more than exhaust manifolds or headers.
Again it amounts to POWER required vs. POWER available.
In the end you are trying to measure with a micrometer and cutting with an axe. Don't buy headers to save fuel would be my recommendation.
As others have alluded, weight and drag control your fuel consumption more than exhaust manifolds or headers.
Again it amounts to POWER required vs. POWER available.
In the end you are trying to measure with a micrometer and cutting with an axe. Don't buy headers to save fuel would be my recommendation.
And headers weigh less than cast manifolds, a potential win-win if you can swing the investment.
Last edited by NautiSouth; 06-20-2014 at 10:32 PM.
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I'd take that $2500 and buy an SS drive.
I bet the less drag will trump the slightly lower BSFC's of headers on a small overlapped small block.
I bet the less drag will trump the slightly lower BSFC's of headers on a small overlapped small block.
#38
I agree that a hull at a particular weight will take X Hp to travel Y MPH, but I disagree that X Hp will always require Z amount of fuel. In fact, automotive manufacturers spend lots of time and money minimizing the amount of fuel it takes to produce a horsepower. The metric this is measured with is called Brake Specific Fuel Consumption (BSFC). Typical values of BSFC for gasoline engines at WOT are 0.3 (very good) to 0.6 (very bad) lb/Hp-hr. My suggestion is that by improving exhaust flow and tuning, it might be possible to improve BSFC's under part-throttle conditions, reducing fuel consumption. This of course assumes the boat is already at it's minimum of weight and drag.
And headers weigh less than cast manifolds, a potential win-win if you can swing the investment.
And headers weigh less than cast manifolds, a potential win-win if you can swing the investment.
Many have chimed in on this, but in the end it sounds like you've convinced yourself. Put some headers on and test it. I'd be curious to see the hard data. Best of luck.
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the more efficient exhaust will slightly increase engine efficiency. you might see a 4 or 5% overall increase in fuel efficiency. 1-2% cuz you made engine flow better. the rest cuz the stern is lighter and planes easier.