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Mike77 02-06-2015 02:38 PM

Throttle conversion
 
I have an '85 34' Scarab with the original single-lever, dual-function controls. I am interested in changing to the separate-function 4-lever controls. The bright red cables installed could be the original cables; I have no history on the boat.

Mounting and placement are the easy part. What should I look for in cable compatibility? Is there a brand or brands that will drop in without needing new cables? Brand recommendations would also be helpful. What are the pitfalls with purchasing used?

Thanks,
Mike
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jmrapp 02-06-2015 02:50 PM

you will need new cables pretty much no matter what you brand you use. All the offshore controls use 33c cables.

sutphen 30 02-06-2015 04:29 PM

I'm pretty sure when you get it apart,,the cables may only need adapters to mount to the new style shifters.get it apart and upload some pics will be a big help.

ezstriper 02-07-2015 08:39 AM

that is a morse unit, should use std 33 cables, so changing won't be a deal at all, did a new boat in 88, morse actually made a set that looked like livorsi, merc etc, almost a drop in swap...

Mike77 02-07-2015 09:48 AM

I should be able to get to it tomorrow and post some pics. Thanks for the help.

Mike

sutphen 30 02-07-2015 12:48 PM

for the love of me(its been since 2001) i don't remember changing the cable on my boat when I went to gaffrig levers.

Rookie 02-09-2015 04:51 PM

I did the swap a couple years ago on my Scarab. Cables are not necessary just different cable ends. I did need to cut out the opening for the new shifters.

Halfway down the page in the following link.
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endeavour32 02-09-2015 05:20 PM

You will need 4 of Merc part number 845281 to make your cables work. They typically go for around $40 a piece.

Mike77 03-08-2015 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by ezstriper (Post 4261659)
that is a morse unit, should use std 33 cables, so changing won't be a deal at all, did a new boat in 88, morse actually made a set that looked like livorsi, merc etc, almost a drop in swap...


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4262611)
I did the swap a couple years ago on my Scarab. Cables are not necessary just different cable ends. I did need to cut out the opening for the new shifters.


Originally Posted by endeavour32 (Post 4262624)
You will need 4 of Merc part number 845281 to make your cables work. They typically go for around $40 a piece.

Finally got the new Kiekhaefer throttles installed. As you pointed out the old unit was a Morse and therefore no cable change was required. I got lucky and the throttle set I got had a set of four cable ends with it.

All I had to do was enlarge the mounting hole, attach the cable ends and cables, and adjust the rigging a small amount for all four cables. Very straightforward job. Thanks for the advice.

Mike
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murfman 03-09-2015 08:43 PM

The cables were the same on mine as well. Went from the Morse to the "K"

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79formula 03-09-2015 09:41 PM

That looks a million times better. Nice work!

nailit 03-14-2015 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by Mike77 (Post 4275820)
Finally got the new Kiekhaefer throttles installed. As you pointed out the old unit was a Morse and therefore no cable change was required. I got lucky and the throttle set I got had a set of four cable ends with it.

All I had to do was enlarge the mounting hole, attach the cable ends and cables, and adjust the rigging a small amount for all four cables. Very straightforward job. Thanks for the advice.

Mike
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Looks great! Just watch out not to grab the wrong lever. My first dual lever, I had in reverse and tried to put in neutral and grabbed wrong lever.. vvvrrrooommm... didnt hit anything, but it was close!

koryk 05-06-2015 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Mike77 (Post 4275820)
Finally got the new Kiekhaefer throttles installed. As you pointed out the old unit was a Morse and therefore no cable change was required. I got lucky and the throttle set I got had a set of four cable ends with it.

All I had to do was enlarge the mounting hole, attach the cable ends and cables, and adjust the rigging a small amount for all four cables. Very straightforward job. Thanks for the advice.

Mike
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Where did you find yours, I need one for a 77 scarab 300.

Mike77 05-06-2015 07:42 PM

Ebay

koryk 05-06-2015 07:45 PM

I'm not sure what to look for. I have the same style throttle you had, I have TRS drives and they shift electronically. Most of what I have found shifts with a cable. Any suggestions?
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Ignore the horibe wiring the boat is under construction!

Mike77 05-06-2015 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by koryk (Post 4301302)
I'm not sure what to look for. I have the same style throttle you had, I have TRS drives and they shift electronically. Most of what I have found shifts with a cable. Any suggestions?

Unfortunately, no. My setup was 4-cable, two for throttles and two for mechanical transmission shift. I have not seen an electrically shifting setup. The only electrical in my setup are the switches for starter lockout, when not in neutral.

Mike


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