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wix oil filter
does anyone know part number for the large 2 quart WIX oil filters??
going to replace for spring , took off, threw out, i forgot numbers thanks |
51222R I believe
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I use K&N available @ Walmart and/or O'Riley's K&N HP-3002Oil Filter
I believe they make a bigger one also. |
Originally Posted by Tahoe540
(Post 4665529)
51222R I believe
i want the larger filter,,like the extra oil i think the 51794 , per glenamy 242ss is the one thanks... |
When I looked that WIX one up I found
1) No Bypass 2) No anti drain back valve Not sure I like either of these "features" I always use the K&N, 3002 and it is white and the decals come off to look good on the white transom. Here is another 2 qt filter with anti drainback and bypass valve. Moroso Race Oil Filters 22461 |
Napa 1794 , Wix 51794 is the standard 2 quart for Chevy in HD Trucks .
Napa 1060 , Wix 51060 is the standard 1 quart for Chevy , neither of these have a bypass or drainback ! Why you ask ? Because you dont need it on a chevy ! |
You really only need the anti drainback if the filter is mounted like it is on 502mpi's
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Not sure which filter you are referring to as everyone's idea of big is different and I haven't measured the liquid capacity. The really big Wix is the 51222r, you should know it if you have it because it has a 4 1/2 in. diameter with 1 1/2 in. threads, it looks more like a coffee can than a filter. Someone might correct me, but I don't believe Merc installed them on anything, they might be for an Eickert filter housing. Anyway here's the specs right from Wix so you can verify. |
The 51060 dose have a drain back but not a bypass
Wix Filters - Product Catalog search results I use the 51060R |
A true 2 qt if not more oil filter. Have a couple in use. Thread size is 1 1/2 -16 has high volume of flow
Met here as its a 5 micron rating ---------- https://www.fleetfilter.com/filter/51792XE.html https://www.fleetfilter.com/filter/51792.html |
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Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4665554)
A true 2 qt if not more oil filter. Have a couple in use. Thread size is 1 1/2 -16 has high volume of flow
Attachment 576153 BUP- do you have an opinion on synthetic vs enhanced cellulose filtration? |
Originally Posted by GLENAMY 242SS
(Post 4665534)
When I looked that WIX one up I found
1) No Bypass 2) No anti drain back valve Not sure I like either of these "features" I always use the K&N, 3002 and it is white and the decals come off to look good on the white transom. Here is another 2 qt filter with anti drainback and bypass valve. Moroso Race Oil Filters 22461 yea , would be easier changing filters with the drain back feature, i slip a small pan under my filters, to catch oil, usually works but.......... maybe the moroso would be good.. same money as the 51794 filter.. good ideas.... as always good info....... |
My BAD I MET this one as its a 5 micron rating. I fixed my post above make sure its the XE - NAPA or WIX and still flows a ton
https://www.fleetfilter.com/filter/51792XE.html |
The XE has a Microglass media and 5 micron rated. Also the XE does have 20 psi less of the burst pressure of 280 psi compared to the 300 psi of the NON XE.
The NON XE and XE still flow the same 28 - 30 GPM I would chose the XE version. especially for a new and or rebuilt engine break in |
Originally Posted by flashgordon
(Post 4665533)
i want the larger filter,,like the extra oil
i think the 51794 , per glenamy 242ss is the one thanks... |
My question is ! Why do you guys inquire about what filter to use in wix while you could simply use the merc one and save time? My engine builder also uses wix and i change them to merc before i even leave the dock ! |
Originally Posted by jeff32
(Post 4665630)
My question is ! Why do you guys inquire about what filter to use in wix while you could simply use the merc one and save time? My engine builder also uses wix and i change them to merc before i even leave the dock ! Personally, I use Mobil 1 filters. They filter better, flow more and use a synthetic filter element that will not swell with moisture. |
To verify OSO posted opinions, I called Mercury Racing tech support directly and asked what the filter was in the 700SCI engines and he looked it up and said it was a "WIX 51222R". Innovation marine installed the Mercury Filters which were $71.00 ea. because they are a "Merc" shop, however, the boat has had the WIX 51222R's in it for years prior to this last service.
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Originally Posted by SABER28
(Post 4665624)
the 51794 wix holds at best a quart and a 1/3 rd.
Part Number: 51794 UPC Number: 765809517943 Principal Application: Chevrolet and GMC Trucks (73-93) All Applications Style: Spin-On Lube Filter Service: Lube Type: Full Flow Media: Paper Height: 7.822 Outer Diameter Top: 3.674 Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed Thread Size: 13/16-16 By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None Burst Pressure-PSI: 270 Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM Nominal Micro Rating: 24 Gasket Diameters Number O.D. I.D. Thk.Part Number: 51794R UPC Number: 765809129061 Principal Application: Racing Applications Only All Applications Style: Spin-On Lube Filter Service: Lube Type: Full Flow Media: Paper Height: 7.820 Outer Diameter Top: 3.600 Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed Thread Size: 13/16-16 By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: None Max Flow Rate: 28 GPM Gasket Diameters Number O.D. I.D. Thk. Attached 3.444 3.100 0.260 Attached 1 3.444 3.100 0.260 15267 3.444 3.100 0.260 just info 51794 R SURE FLOWS MORE..
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Originally Posted by mauryloomis
(Post 4665679)
to verify oso posted opinions, i called mercury racing tech support directly and asked what the filter was in the 700sci engines and he looked it up and said it was a "wix 51222r". Innovation marine installed the mercury filters which were $71.00 ea. Because they are a "merc" shop, however, the boat has had the wix 51222r's in it for years prior to this last service.
I think the 51794r??? Down side on this filter is no bypass valve or anit drain back.. 51792XE GOOD NUMBER ALSO MAYBE A TRUE 2 QUART FILTER , 12 IN TALL VS 51794 IS 8 IN TALL just looking at the seal on 51794 and 51792xe,,they dont look to be same od?? if there are , i think the 51792xe is choice. but it is pricey at 32 buck well there are different size seals the 51792xe, 51222r seal is too large i need filter with seal size of 51061 , 60,,51794 |
51222R offers good flow but does not offer small micron capture at all compared to other filters
I would not use this filter ever for breaking in a new engine. |
I run the 51222r Wix, but like BUP said break in was on a standard purolator car filter with high micron. I don’t think anyone will disagree that more oil and filter changes is better than less and more oil flow is better than less. The big Folgers can filter is 51222r to answer the OP’s question. Happy boating. |
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Full disclosure, I am an Amsoil dealer. I use the Donaldson P550832 which is the WIX equivalent. Be wary of the racing filters, they will typically pass particles twice the size of the standard filters. The Donaldson has sufficient surface area to provide full flow regardless of viscosity and volume and it's rated at 20 microns. It keeps my oil so clean that at the end of the season I still have trouble seeing the oil on the dip stick. Which is quite a feat as I do a lot of river cruising with a big cam and I'm carbureted. I actually use my old engine oil as bar lube in my chainsaw.
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But this Donaldson is not the one with large outer diameter!
I use an 600SCi with the older Merc filters that use the big diamter! As this merc filters are highpriced,i look for an alternative but here now so much filters listed,that i know not any more what to use! I want antidrainback and a good filter with small microns. I use motor most time only for cruising and my oilpressure is very good.60-70 Psi. Can i use Moroso 22465 or are the any better filters that makes my oil clearer??? I see that oil with merc filter is fast dirty and my engine have under 100 Hours. regards. Michael |
Merc Racing filter #35-840634K01, for the 700 SCI, is getting harder to find every year.
Not sure if I want to put a WIX 51222R on the engines. |
I look for filter with smaller micron nummber like 10-15!
As i change oil all 20 hours i think its better to use finer filter that takes more particels out of the oil. I have Moroso 22465 here but is list with 25 microns. So what filter is finer with this size?? Michael |
Check out this site, you can cross reference just about anything.
Wix 51222R - 5 cross references | oilfilter-crossreference.com |
I’m running an HP6 and only finding racing filters at 27 microns, and really would like something tighter for the new engine. If anyone knows of one off hand I’d appreciate it. |
If another doesn't list what your looking for, use this to find the one which fits
Catalogs My engine builder said to use the racing (larger micro number) because its in a boat. There is not all the road dust and crud that you would find on land. That said, if you can find one which will pass the volume at the maximum particle size, with drain back, its all good. As another mentioned, if your filter will be mounted threads up, then the drain back is not necessary |
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Sorry for this question now. In my SCi the filter is mount screw down. I need now ANTIDRAINBACKVALVE or Drainbackvalve??? ANTI is when the filter go empty after stop the engine??? I want filter that holds the oil!! What about Fram HP6A ??? 5Mircons .But what means Antidranbackvalve : NO Filter hold the Oil?? Michael |
Antidrainback No means it doess not have one
With screw down you want the a anti valve (meaning antidrainback Yes) As for Fram, I personally don't use Fram oil filters |
Ok,then most filters are out as HP6 Moroso 22465 and others without Antidrainvalve!!!
Looks Merc 600-700sci better needs filter with an Antidrainvalve because the filter is at every start empty from oil without Antidrainvalve,right?? So what filter have it and big size with 1 1/2-12 in. UNF thread???????? Michael |
I added a 3/4 cone check valve to my plumbing so no need for valve now. I don't think any of the hp6 style have the valve.
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That sounds bad for me!!!
The orginal merc filter holds the oil and drain only back when tighend it a bit to get air in it. So all guys here use the big filters without anti drain valve? Maybe best option is to change the filter mount to the newer engines and use the smaller diameter filter!!!??? Need only 2 parts! connector 22-805632 base oilfilter 8M0021768 merc uses on all SCi 2010 newer the small diameter filter that are lowpriced. It needs only this 2 parts to convert.All others are same.I have checked. Michael |
Originally Posted by Baja Rooster
(Post 4668653)
I’m running an HP6 and only finding racing filters at 27 microns, and really would like something tighter for the new engine. If anyone knows of one off hand I’d appreciate it. |
The Baldwin will not fit. It is only the small filter and not the one with 4,6 inch outer diameter like HP6 !
The small ones are easy to get but i look for the bigger ones! Michael |
By the way!!
The big orginal merc filters have anti drain or not?? If not it looks that not importend for the engines!?Michael |
The answer!No drainbackvalve in oem merc filter.
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I try now to get Fram HP6A Filter now here in Germany.
Has 5 Micron filter size that looks very good to me. Michael https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6707551c86.png |
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