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89Force235 07-22-2019 10:42 AM

Engine cooling - Std Bravo lower unit pickup vs transom mount water pickup
 
Is a thru transom pickup similar to one of these:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/e...gaAuciEALw_wcB

More efficient than going through my standard (not low water) bravo drive?

I'm hoping to get a little more flow. My water temp gauge creeps up to above 160 on hard long pulls. My set-up is the bravo drive to bravo seawater pump to a crossover then out the "thermostat housing" to exhaust. No re-circulation pump. No thermostat.

Thanks,

Travis

F-2 Speedy 07-22-2019 11:03 AM

The pickup you posted is a -16 hose fitting size and would be smaller than the hose running from the transom to the sea pump, so it would be less water volume, if your running stock power the drive pickup will be ample. you may have some blockage in your current setup.

89Force235 07-22-2019 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4697974)
The pickup you posted is a -16 hose fitting size and would be smaller than the hose running from the transom to the sea pump, so it would be less water volume, if your running stock power the drive pickup will be ample. you may have some blockage in your current setup.

Thanks for the reply. No blockage. I checked the cooler hoses etc.

Edit: The hose on my seawater pump is 1-1/4" ID .. I though that was what i posted was a 1-1/4 pickup, I should have looked at the "AN" size.

Edit" Anyhow, the standard bravo pickup pulls through a piece of 3/4" or so hose between the gimbal and drive. It's this one:
https://www.google.com/search?q=brav...nyGUDTqaM0ZCM:

I thought eliminating it as a restriction may help since everything else in the system is 1-1/4"

Edit: forgot to mention. Not stock power. 650hp 871 blown big block..

F-2 Speedy 07-22-2019 11:19 AM

the standard hose from sea pump to transom pickup is 1.25 ID............are you running an intercooler ?

89Force235 07-22-2019 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4697974)
The pickup you posted is a -16 hose fitting size and would be smaller than the hose running from the transom to the sea pump, so it would be less water volume, if your running stock power the drive pickup will be ample. you may have some blockage in your current setup.


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4697977)
the standard hose from sea pump to transom pickup is 1.25 ID............are you running an intercooler ?

No intercooler. But I don't think it's a tuning issue... 28 degrees locked timing. Slightly rich AF is 12.5 to 13 at cruise and 11 to 11.5 at full boost (6lbs)

You are correct the hose from transom to seawater is is 1-1/4 ID. (not 1-1/2 as I posted earlier. I checked my mistake, I edited my previous post to avoid confusion) but that's not the one I'm worried about. Its the one from the gimbal to the drive looks like it is about 3/4" ID.

payuppsucker 07-22-2019 01:39 PM

Better check the fitting on your gimbal where the 1.250" hose connects. They are notorious for corroding and restricting flow.

89Force235 07-22-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4698011)
Better check the fitting on your gimbal where the 1.250" hose connects. They are notorious for corroding and restricting flow.

I didn't see any issues when I had the drive off a month ago but thanks for the suggestion. It's also a freshwater boat that doesn't stay in the water.

89Force235 07-23-2019 09:31 AM

Maybe I'm asking the wrong question here.... From what I've read a transom mount pickup can be "trimmed" to provide the appropriate amount of water pressure to the seawater pump (or strainer for those who have one).

Has anyone went to a transom mount pickup and regretted it?

payuppsucker 07-23-2019 09:38 AM

I've never converted from a drive source to a transom style pickup but most of my boats have had transom pickups. If you go with a transom mounted pickup you will need to add a pressure relief valve between the pick up and the pump to bleed off some of the water when running at speed.
Hardin also makes an adjustable pickup.

flashgordon 07-23-2019 11:50 AM

wow ,,this is all new to me
i have transom water pickup
goes to strainer , then oil coolers, then pump to motor.
i have never noticed any issues, but my boat is not a 100 mph boat...
should i be considering adding a relief valve?????????

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 07-23-2019 12:20 PM

160* sounds fine to me

payuppsucker 07-23-2019 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by flashgordon (Post 4698174)
wow ,,this is all new to me
i have transom water pickup
goes to strainer , then oil coolers, then pump to motor.
i have never noticed any issues, but my boat is not a 100 mph boat...
should i be considering adding a relief valve?????????

Do you have a water pressure gauge?

89Force235 07-23-2019 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by 1 MAIDEN AMERICA (Post 4698186)
160* sounds fine to me

It keeps going... I haven't pushed it any farther to see when/if it'll stop

89Force235 07-23-2019 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4698151)
I've never converted from a drive source to a transom style pickup but most of my boats have had transom pickups. If you go with a transom mounted pickup you will need to add a pressure relief valve between the pick up and the pump to bleed off some of the water when running at speed.
Hardin also makes an adjustable pickup.

I read some place that the relief is not necessary as long as you've dialed in the pickup with a gauge and you're not flying the boat out of the water. The author noted the spikes in pressure are from re-entry.

Four what its worth my boat doesn't fly but does run about 75mph on the top end.

flashgordon 07-23-2019 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4698192)
Do you have a water pressure gauge?

no i dont have water pressure gauge,,,,
my boat is NOW closed coolant system..
dont know if that makes any difference...
but just posting that..
motors use to run 140-160 no thermostats

payuppsucker 07-24-2019 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by flashgordon (Post 4698198)
no i dont have water pressure gauge,,,,
my boat is NOW closed coolant system..
dont know if that makes any difference...
but just posting that..
motors use to run 140-160 no thermostats

You should be good to go without the regulator.

green lightning 07-24-2019 08:01 AM

I converted my boat over to transom adjustable pick ups and love them , The only problem I encountered was breaking the welds off the pick ups so I welded the pick ups after I checked the pressure and then they were good. Then when I added two stage sea water pumps and intercoolers I did not have enough pressure at speed so I fish mouthed the bottom of the boat right in front of the pick ups and I have 15-17lbs of pressure at a little over 100mph engines run nice and cool.

Griff 07-24-2019 01:08 PM

Running only 28* of timing will create more heat as well.

89Force235 07-24-2019 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by green lightning (Post 4698338)
I converted my boat over to transom adjustable pick ups and love them , The only problem I encountered was breaking the welds off the pick ups so I welded the pick ups after I checked the pressure and then they were good. Then when I added two stage sea water pumps and intercoolers I did not have enough pressure at speed so I fish mouthed the bottom of the boat right in front of the pick ups and I have 15-17lbs of pressure at a little over 100mph engines run nice and cool.

Thank you for the post! Why did you add the two stage pumps? Not enough volume to cool the boat?

flashgordon 07-24-2019 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4698332)
You should be good to go without the regulator.

thanks for info ''payupsucker............""

89Force235 07-24-2019 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4698401)
Running only 28* of timing will create more heat as well.

What do you think I should be running at 6 or 7 lbs of boost on a 8:1 static 454 with aluminum heads? I didn't see any performance gains going to up 2 degrees so I figured less was safer...

green lightning 07-24-2019 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by 89Force235 (Post 4698423)
Thank you for the post! Why did you add the two stage pumps? Not enough volume to cool the boat?

When I built my intercoolers I put 2 #12 lines that just dump water out the side of the boat , I could never get anyone to tell me if the stock type pump would handle it so I thought it would be safer with a 2 stage pump

89Force235 07-24-2019 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by green lightning (Post 4698428)
When I built my intercoolers I put 2 #12 lines that just dump water out the side of the boat , I could never get anyone to tell me if the stock type pump would handle it so I thought it would be safer with a 2 stage pump

Thanks for the reply!


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