Offshoreonly.com

Offshoreonly.com (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/)
-   Do It Yourself, Boating on a Budget (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/do-yourself-boating-budget-249/)
-   -   check ball and connector question (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/do-yourself-boating-budget/368205-check-ball-connector-question.html)

outonsafari 08-25-2020 11:15 PM

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4b3bb463ed.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2bb8d980bd.jpg

So on my engine the header kit came with short rubber hoses and stainless plugs so the original hoses, chokepoint and oil cooler get blocked off as the headers dont back drain.

in the first pic you can see the plug on on the chokepoint by the 2 hoses for the coolfuel

the other one that plugs the t inlet on the oil cooler wasnt used since i used a different oil cooler and mounted were the port side airvalve drain thing used to be


you can test if the backdrains failed open by blocking them off

Remove the hoses that go from the backdrains to the choke point and oil cooler, get a foot of hose whatever diameter is on them, 4 hose clamps and a dowel rod, cut the hose into 4 sections stuff a dowel in there and clamp them in place.

that will force the cooling water to follow the circuit around to the heat exchanger same as if the backdrains closed from pressure off the seapump.


mine and every other 496 with cmi headers has the backdrains deleted so it wont hurt the engine.

i would do it only as a test to troubleshoot it and replace if needed since this engine is stock before i paid 140 bucks an hour for soms greasy boot mechanic to walk over and scuff up the boat after it sat in their parking lot uncovered for 2 weeks because "we dont cover and uncover boats" until they get around to dingin you for 700 bucks.

Sydwayz 08-25-2020 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by jadento (Post 4754559)
Yes fresh water flush, not sure its factory. But has the perko valves in it. But with the cap in the flush fitting i cant see how that could affect flow. plus one symptom is high pressure as read from the at the sea water pump which is after the flush valve. Which is a mechanical gauge....pegs 35 Psi gauge.

John

The Perko Tee is the one that has the checkball in it. It's spring loaded. The checkball is not needed, and I recommend removing it. That's the exact issue a friend had with his 30' Baja with 496 Mags. They would run fine up to 45mph or so, but anything over that, they were not getting enough water, and overheated. The checkball was gummed up with seaweed and was not allowing enough water into the engine.

TitanBry77 08-26-2020 06:05 PM

Hey all. This is the fitting that is at the bottom on each manifold. It has no spring or anything inside it, just a check ball.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac9e53c7c.jpeg

jadento 08-26-2020 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by TitanBry77 (Post 4754672)
Hey all. This is the fitting that is at the bottom on each manifold. It has no spring or anything inside it, just a check ball.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac9e53c7c.jpeg


Yes that is the part I was referring to originally and you are correct just a ball. What Sydwayz was most recently talking about is a Perko product unrelated to this which allows you to flush the motor without muffs on the outdrive. Its a valve that tees into the incoming raw water supply from the outdrive. It has a one way check valve with a spring.

Jadento

jadento 08-26-2020 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4754566)
The Perko Tee is the one that has the checkball in it. It's spring loaded. The checkball is not needed, and I recommend removing it. That's the exact issue a friend had with his 30' Baja with 496 Mags. They would run fine up to 45mph or so, but anything over that, they were not getting enough water, and overheated. The checkball was gummed up with seaweed and was not allowing enough water into the engine.

So the perko valve is before the sea water pump which is where the mechanical fuel pressure gauge reads from. I cant see it pegging the gauge past 35 if it was blocking water.

Do mechanical water pressure gauges go bad?

John

jadento 08-26-2020 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by outonsafari (Post 4754565)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4b3bb463ed.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2bb8d980bd.jpg

So on my engine the header kit came with short rubber hoses and stainless plugs so the original hoses, chokepoint and oil cooler get blocked off as the headers dont back drain.

in the first pic you can see the plug on on the chokepoint by the 2 hoses for the coolfuel

the other one that plugs the t inlet on the oil cooler wasnt used since i used a different oil cooler and mounted were the port side airvalve drain thing used to be


you can test if the backdrains failed open by blocking them off

Remove the hoses that go from the backdrains to the choke point and oil cooler, get a foot of hose whatever diameter is on them, 4 hose clamps and a dowel rod, cut the hose into 4 sections stuff a dowel in there and clamp them in place.

that will force the cooling water to follow the circuit around to the heat exchanger same as if the backdrains closed from pressure off the seapump.


mine and every other 496 with cmi headers has the backdrains deleted so it wont hurt the engine.

i would do it only as a test to troubleshoot it and replace if needed since this engine is stock before i paid 140 bucks an hour for soms greasy boot mechanic to walk over and scuff up the boat after it sat in their parking lot uncovered for 2 weeks because "we dont cover and uncover boats" until they get around to dingin you for 700 bucks.


We/He has never used the mercury pump out system, so I believe we could eliminate the check valve with no problems. we have a couple things to try still. but may end up trying the delete. Thanks for the info.

John

Ryan00TJ 08-27-2020 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by TitanBry77 (Post 4754672)
Hey all. This is the fitting that is at the bottom on each manifold. It has no spring or anything inside it, just a check ball.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac9e53c7c.jpeg

This thread covers how the system works......

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ve-496-ho.html

TitanBry77 09-02-2020 08:45 AM

Where should I install a pressure bypass. It already has the fitting to dump it out the side of the boat. on the input side to the water pump or the output?

Kriskraft 07-30-2021 08:41 PM

Did changing these Drain "T" fittings correct the overheating problem? Were they plugged up or bad? I'm having a similar overheating issue and all raw water pumps, impellers, gaskets, and t-stat have been changed.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 AM.


Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.