454 wont idle below 1500 RPMs
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So it doesn’t run at 1500rpm on its own, you have to hold it there to keep it from stalling?
Picture of carb looks like mixture screw is way out to me. Turn them in all the way(gently) then back out 1 and 1/4 turn. It should run there and adjust later.
I would remove flame arrest or, run engine to warm up, and when you bring the throttle slowly down to idle when it starts to die out give it a short burst of carb cleaner in the top of the carb. If you can keep it running that way you know you have a lean problem. Be careful, carb cleaner is flammable.
Did you check around carb base plate for vac leak? Does it have a PCV system? That’s another possibility for vac leak.
Picture of carb looks like mixture screw is way out to me. Turn them in all the way(gently) then back out 1 and 1/4 turn. It should run there and adjust later.
I would remove flame arrest or, run engine to warm up, and when you bring the throttle slowly down to idle when it starts to die out give it a short burst of carb cleaner in the top of the carb. If you can keep it running that way you know you have a lean problem. Be careful, carb cleaner is flammable.
Did you check around carb base plate for vac leak? Does it have a PCV system? That’s another possibility for vac leak.
When I first got the boat the screws were like 3 turns out, first thing I did was bring them to 1 and a 1/2 turns out. This helped it start better but had little to no effect on idle.
And yes, it needs throttle to stay running. As soon as I try to bring it back to nuetral it stalls.
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With throttle open you are off the idle circuit any way , but that will get give you a starting point after you find other problem.
Like Alldodge said look to see if fuel dripping out of venturies (flooding) if not try the carb cleaner to see if it’s to lean. Need a starting point for direction.
Like Alldodge said look to see if fuel dripping out of venturies (flooding) if not try the carb cleaner to see if it’s to lean. Need a starting point for direction.
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Griff (11-10-2020)
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In some of my research last night I came across the idle transfer slots may have too much exposed, but the carb needs to be removed to check these. Going to look tonight for fuel dripping from the venturies and try once again to get a timing reading while it is cold and I can have it idling around 1000 rpms. If nothing comes from either of those things I think the next step is to take the front float bowl and metering block apart and see if the idle circuit has a clog. If still nothing after that, pull the carb and check transfer slots.
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Grt the whole thing apart. These carbs are quite easy. Clean out all passages (don’t forget 8 air bleeds top of carb. ) with carb clean with red tube and compressed air. Rubber tip blow gun.
If needle and seats haven't been replaced ever or long time, good chance for those.
If needle and seats haven't been replaced ever or long time, good chance for those.
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mike tkach (11-11-2020)
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Thanks guys, I did verify float levels and those were good. With the boat on level ground I could see fuel just below the sight holes.
Supposedly this carb was completely rebuilt this summer but I do not know if whoever did it knew what they were doing, and I do not know if idle issues were happening before/after the carb rebuild.
Supposedly this carb was completely rebuilt this summer but I do not know if whoever did it knew what they were doing, and I do not know if idle issues were happening before/after the carb rebuild.
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If you can't get the idle low enough to check timing you could mark the dist and just advance it to see if the idle will settle down any so you can get a light on it. Then you can put it back where marked and it will be clowe enough till you find the problem and set it correctly.
Is this a stock camshaft or performance?
Is this a stock camshaft or performance?
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I am unsure on the cam but my gut tells me its stock.
More research on lunch today and I see a lot of Holley carbs have 4 corner idle adjustments. Yesterday when I noticed that I had 2 idle adjustments in the front of the carb and not the back, I went to a chevy 350 I have with similar holley carb and it also only had 2 idle adjustment screws on the front metering block. The one on the 350 though the metering blocks in the front and back were clearly different. The Holley on this 454 the metering blocks front and back appear very similar, so maybe I do have the 4 corner idle adjustment and I need 2 more idle adjustments screws in the back of the carburetor?
More research on lunch today and I see a lot of Holley carbs have 4 corner idle adjustments. Yesterday when I noticed that I had 2 idle adjustments in the front of the carb and not the back, I went to a chevy 350 I have with similar holley carb and it also only had 2 idle adjustment screws on the front metering block. The one on the 350 though the metering blocks in the front and back were clearly different. The Holley on this 454 the metering blocks front and back appear very similar, so maybe I do have the 4 corner idle adjustment and I need 2 more idle adjustments screws in the back of the carburetor?
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I doubt that is it, but take a small wire and stick in the rear holes. I think you will find they are not drilled all the way.
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SB (11-10-2020)