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DRIVEN1 01-17-2006 07:46 AM

Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
Will Donzi do a front center bolster on the new 38ZR? Also from guys that own this boat now. What options do you recommend from Donzi? Are there ones you got that you wish you didn't? Are there any you regret not doing? How much "custom" stuff will Donzi do from the factory? Thanks for your help, just trying to do some research so I don't buy the wrong boat.

lonestar382 01-17-2006 08:30 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
Donzi will go about as custom as your pocket book these days. I am not sure about the front center bolster, your nearest dealer will have to check with the factory on that one, but I don't think it'll happen. I haven't been on enough of them to help you out on options, but I do think I would have them eliminate the stereo so that I could have my own system installed.

Corey

LiveWire 01-17-2006 09:39 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
I have been on two so far and driven one of them in LOTO and you can't go wrong. If you want the boat to go as fast as it can with the 525's then keep the cabin simple - Don't get the v-berth and opt for storage instead of the head. You will see low to mid 90's. If you have a wife and kids that need the head, sinks, AC, generator and so on. Then I would upgrade to the 600SCI's and you can still achieve the low 90's.

Alex

DRIVEN1 01-17-2006 09:37 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by alamping
I have been on two so far and driven one of them in LOTO and you can't go wrong. If you want the boat to go as fast as it can with the 525's then keep the cabin simple - Don't get the v-berth and opt for storage instead of the head. You will see low to mid 90's. If you have a wife and kids that need the head, sinks, AC, generator and so on. Then I would upgrade to the 600SCI's and you can still achieve the low 90's.

Alex

I am thinking I am going to get the Ilmor 625hp. They are telling me with this setup it will run low 90s no matter how much fuel or people are on board. With the right props almost 100. I need the v-birth, toilet for the kids. I do not want AC or generator. I have not had good luck with generators in boats. So you were impressed with the ride?

LiveWire 01-18-2006 11:39 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
Yes I was impressed with the ride and handling. She ran 80+mph at 3500rpm's with 525's. I am building one like my 38 Daytona and I am going with the 600SCI's because I want 600HP and 625ibs of torque all the time - regardless of temperature, humidity and so on. I have heard and witness both the 525's and Ilmor 625's not being consistent with high humidity and temperatures.

DRIVEN1 01-18-2006 11:35 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by alamping
Yes I was impressed with the ride and handling. She ran 80+mph at 3500rpm's with 525's. I am building one like my 38 Daytona and I am going with the 600SCI's because I want 600HP and 625ibs of torque all the time - regardless of temperature, humidity and so on. I have heard and witness both the 525's and Ilmor 625's not being consistent with high humidity and temperatures.

I had not heard this about the Ilmors. I would have thought with the supercharged 600s you would have bigger swings with temps. I have had many turbo cars and they would vary as much as 2-4 lbs in boost from summer to winter temps.

LiveWire 01-20-2006 09:37 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
I had turbos in cars too but, the difference with these new 600SCi's being supercharged the key is the new computer chip. It has built in tools like a barometer and so on that runs analysis of the environment and makes adjustments to the motors that make them produce constantly 600hp and 625ibs of torque all the time regardless if it's a hot muggy day or if you are at high altitude or not. That's what sold me. I boat in the mid-west and it gets hot and sticky and if I invested all this money in power into a boat I want the boat to run in top form all the time not when conditions are right. But that's just me.

DRIVEN1 01-20-2006 09:48 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by alamping
I had turbos in cars too but, the difference with these new 600SCi's being supercharged the key is the new computer chip. It has built in tools like a barometer and so on that runs analysis of the environment and makes adjustments to the motors that make them produce constantly 600hp and 625ibs of torque all the time regardless if it's a hot muggy day or if you are at high altitude or not. That's what sold me. I boat in the mid-west and it gets hot and sticky and if I invested all this money in power into a boat I want the boat to run in top form all the time not when conditions are right. But that's just me.

So you have the Merc 600s? What boat are they in? What kind of speeds are you seeing? Have you been happy with them on a daily basis? How long have you had them? Sorry for so many questions, but I want to make an informed choice. Thanks Mike

LiveWire 01-20-2006 12:55 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
I haven't taken delivery yet. I am in the process of building another custom boat from Donzi. It is a 38ZR and I am going with the 600SCi's for power. They wanted me to be the first 38ZR boat with the Ilmor 625's but, after considering all the reviews and performance of the Ilmor's and comparing them to the 600SCi's and being they are equal in power and torque - I didn't feel comfortable enough with the only drives available with the Ilmor's were the Teague Platinum Drives and that they were still working on the service network for the package. Not that I haven't ventured in uncommon power and drive package's before (My 38 Daytona has Innovation Marines 650hp for power and B-MAX drives) I felt the Mercury Racing power and drive package is a proved set-up and the fact that I would always get the same performance power regardless of conditions was my final determining factor. Plus the fact the 525's are understated in power and they were running 90-92mph I didn't think the Ilmor's had the cost justification.

Marginmn 01-20-2006 03:14 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by alamping
I haven't taken delivery yet. I am in the process of building another custom boat from Donzi. It is a 38ZR and I am going with the 600SCi's for power. They wanted me to be the first 38ZR boat with the Ilmor 625's but, after considering all the reviews and performance of the Ilmor's and comparing them to the 600SCi's and being they are equal in power and torque - I didn't feel comfortable enough with the only drives available with the Ilmor's were the Teague Platinum Drives and that they were still working on the service network for the package. Not that I haven't ventured in uncommon power and drive package's before (My 38 Daytona has Innovation Marines 650hp for power and B-MAX drives) I felt the Mercury Racing power and drive package is a proved set-up and the fact that I would always get the same performance power regardless of conditions was my final determining factor. Plus the fact the 525's are understated in power and they were running 90-92mph I didn't think the Ilmor's had the cost justification.


What'sthe diff in costs for the 600's over the 525's?

DRIVEN1 01-21-2006 12:38 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by alamping
I haven't taken delivery yet. I am in the process of building another custom boat from Donzi. It is a 38ZR and I am going with the 600SCi's for power. They wanted me to be the first 38ZR boat with the Ilmor 625's but, after considering all the reviews and performance of the Ilmor's and comparing them to the 600SCi's and being they are equal in power and torque - I didn't feel comfortable enough with the only drives available with the Ilmor's were the Teague Platinum Drives and that they were still working on the service network for the package. Not that I haven't ventured in uncommon power and drive package's before (My 38 Daytona has Innovation Marines 650hp for power and B-MAX drives) I felt the Mercury Racing power and drive package is a proved set-up and the fact that I would always get the same performance power regardless of conditions was my final determining factor. Plus the fact the 525's are understated in power and they were running 90-92mph I didn't think the Ilmor's had the cost justification.

I guess I am lucky that they already have an Ilmor servive center close to my house. Also they guy that owns the dealership races with Bob Teague in a Donzi 38 ZR with the teague drives. He has not had any problems in 2 seasons of racing with that drive. I know they are way harder on the drives than I will ever be. Aren't the 600s about the same price of the Ilmor? When will your boat be ready? Any recommendations on options for the boat when I order it?
What speeds will you run with the 600s? I have a ride in the 38 with Ilmors in 9 hours. I can not sleep, the anticipation is killing me!!!!!!!

baja27 01-23-2006 08:08 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
Well how was your ride? I 'm also looking at the 38zr's with the viper motors.

DRIVEN1 01-23-2006 11:26 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by baja27
Well how was your ride? I 'm also looking at the 38zr's with the viper motors.

Ride was very nice. The bay was flat which sucked. But with probably 100 gallons of gas and 2 guys on board I was driving her at 92mph. I did not trim the boat all the way out so I was not hitting 6000rpm. He says trimmed out it will do 95-96mph. I will be ordering one in the next couple of months after I sell my Fountain 38LX. I have a ride in a 38 ZR with the 525s in the next couple of weeks so I will see the how they are.

baja27 01-24-2006 08:37 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
How was the sound? What rpm where you turning

DRIVEN1 01-24-2006 08:43 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by baja27
How was the sound? What rpm where you turning

I loved the sound!!! I did not trim the boat all the way out and was turning 5600rpm, I think when Mike drove it he had it right to the 6000 limit. I have had alot of communication with the guys at Ilmor and I will be using their motor hands down. Give me your e-mail address and I will send you a little video of the boat at the dock idling.

baja27 01-24-2006 09:26 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
[email protected]

Thanks

customryder 01-24-2006 09:33 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
[email protected] me to?

Marginmn 01-24-2006 09:34 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
[email protected] me three

DRIVEN1 01-24-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by Marginmn

Just sent to you, baja27 and customryder. It is only at the docks idling but it still sounds nice and you can get a good look at the boat. Mike

Marginmn 01-24-2006 12:10 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
Great video, that boat looks and sounds great. If you order one are you going to get the rear bench seat or the bolsters? They say those bolsters weigh an additional 350 lbs. That has a be a few mph.

DRIVEN1 01-24-2006 03:06 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by Marginmn
Great video, that boat looks and sounds great. If you order one are you going to get the rear bench seat or the bolsters? They say those bolsters weigh an additional 350 lbs. That has a be a few mph.

I am doing a rear bench. But I am adding a front removeable center bolster.

Marginmn 01-24-2006 04:47 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by DRIVEN1
I am doing a rear bench. But I am adding a front removeable center bolster.

I'll be interested to see what your impressions are of the 525 ZR.

What are they telling you about lead times?

customryder 01-24-2006 06:08 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 
sweet... thanks!

DRIVEN1 01-24-2006 08:30 PM

Re: Front center bolster for the 38ZR?
 

Originally Posted by Marginmn
I'll be interested to see what your impressions are of the 525 ZR.

What are they telling you about lead times?

A couple of months, but I have a boat to get rid off so I did not press him for exact times. I should get to ride in the 525 boat as soon as it gets out of the shop.


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