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why doesn't cigarette make the gladiator any more? Did it become the 36 pantera?

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Originally Posted by northernoffshore (Post 2686238)

why doesn't cigarette make the gladiator any more? Did it become the 36 pantera?

The Gladiator doesn't show as a currently available model but, They will build you one if you want. Contact Phil at Lip-Ship Performance he'll be happy to set you up with one :drink:

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Originally Posted by Donzi38ZR (Post 2670059)

Mas...

In the dash pic, is the starboard steering wheel off center?

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Originally Posted by Shanghied Again (Post 2670910)

The big difference between a 36 Gladiator and a Donzi ZRC.
The Donzi has a wider beam "More Stable" 2ft longer better in rough water, race proven over and over again, The throtlles on the gladiator are aweful you have to reach behind the seat to throttle feels awkward, when you run over 80 the gladiator does have a little chine walk, Donzi does not and i have driven both. I have felt very comftorble running a ZRC in a Poker Run with 3-5s under me at over 100mph and she is solid at 115. Unlike a lot of boats the ZRC has the best layup not stiff like a carbon fiber set up and dosen't kill your back the closest V hull you can get to a Cat without the Insurance expense. Just a Great Boat. The Gladiator is a nice looking boat but paint can make any boat look great.

I know you have been in both boats and I have only had experience with the Gladiator but I think they are a little closer in physical attributes than stated. The Glad is actually 36'11" while the ZRC is 38'1" a difference of slightly over a foot and the ZRC is only 2" wider. I am just saying they are very close. I think they are pretty close in performance too. I have logged a lot of seat time in a Gladiator and have not noticed any chinewalking issues and I think the boat is very stable at 100+. I do agree the ZRC's are faster with their new 5 step bottom and from what I hear are an AWESOME boat. I know they have won countless races and championships as well. I think that Donzi has done an awesome job of supporting and promoting racing. I do think at the same time Cig has focused more of their efforts away from racing resulting in a lot less Cig's competing. I think both boats are incredible rides and very close whether its ride, handling, or performance. The ZRC maybe a little better overall package but I think it is very close.

I think it is all preference. You cannot lose with either ride.

just my .02

northernoffshore, here's Jo's response regarding the similarity b/w the Pantera 36' and Apache 36'.

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Originally Posted by JO - PANTERABOATS (Post 2588553)

That is because it was designed by Mr. Jim Muir the man that has designed probably most of Cigarrettes, and all the "new" Cigarrettes, all the Apaches and all of my work for close to 30 yrs.

Just like Paul Harvey would say....... and now you know the rest of the story.
later,
pp.

They looked similar with low profile. The pantera 36 is a good looking boat. But the Donzi 38 is my choice among them

What is the weight of the older ZRC's? the current models show to weigh in at a hefty 8700 lbs

The Gladiator's spec sheet shows 7800 lbs

I have never been in a Gladiator however there seems to be many accidents and from what I hear they are not a forgiving boat for the inexperienced.

Last weekend I had the pleasure of driving a 38 Competition in a poker run with Craig Barrie on the throttles and that boat is incredable.

From style, comfort, fit & finish to speed and handling I would find it hard to believe the Gladiator is a bettter boat.

With 700's and light fuel the Donzi ran 115.6 on the GPS and it is rock solid and very predictable.

At every card stop the folks on the card boats commented that we had the prettiest boat in the run and there were Nortech's, Outerlimits, Fountains and Skaters.

It is a really nice boat that I would be proud to own.

Yours truely with the wheel on the starboard side and Craig on the port working the throttles.

Doc,

What does one have to spend to become the proud owner of a comparably equipped 700/NXT Donzi?