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Br1dgemann 09-08-2016 11:05 AM

So, snave8, what are the results of trying different props with the shorty drive??

Scott B 09-13-2016 07:39 PM

Hydromotive Q4...

scottdonzi2004 09-14-2016 03:57 PM

So Mark... I just purchased a 04 22 Anniversary and expierenced some of the same issues you described. Is you outdrive a Bravo 1 X? mine is. After reading several forums on this site and others I tried to run my tabs down at about 25% which is a 5 count. That seemed to take care of my problem so far. I have ran the boat with 2people 25% tabs down trim at 1/3 or better 70mph gps and I am running a Mirage + 25p at 5000 rpm. Since I boat in northern MIchigan I have run out of time this year to do anymore testing. I have a buddy who has an 09 22C 496ho same set up as mine running a Rev 4 prop with Zeiger power steering that came with the boat from the factory. I drove that boat and HUGE difference. You can take your hands off the wheel at +65mph. Now, he is running a lot of tabs too but hitting 72-74 mph gps. I am thinking that I might look into the power steering and also would like to try his Rev 4 in 25P next season. Anyone have any input with power steering affecting how these boats handle? At 70 mph it wants to drift to port and is very hard to bring it back even with port trim down a bit more.

snave8 09-16-2016 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Br1dgemann (Post 4479602)
So, snave8, what are the results of trying different props with the shorty drive??

So the boat runs 69-70 MPH GPS pretty consistently now with the Bravo 1. At a lower elevation, I'm sure I'd be into the low 70's. Handles WAAAAAY better all around.
In order to run wide open with the tabs all the way up, I need to trim it all the way out, which is at the halfway point on the gauge. If I leave the trim down at say 1/4 on the gauge, and no tabs, I get a mild porpoise.
I can run approx 65-67 mph in rough water with a bit of down tab and the boat handles great.
I tried installing the Turbo 1 prop that I have. The Imco Shorty I had installed has a 1 1/4" prop shaft, so we had to go with a merc solid hub kit. When I installed the turbo 1, there' was waaaay too much slop. I could literally move the prop side to side on the shaft, so I took it off without trying it.
I'm not sure why....The flo-torq hub I used with the stock lower unit worked fine with both props, but with the solid hub kit, the Bravo 1 fits properly, but no way on the Turbo.........Anyone have an idea why??

snave8 09-16-2016 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by scottdonzi2004 (Post 4481444)
So Mark... I just purchased a 04 22 Anniversary and expierenced some of the same issues you described. Is you outdrive a Bravo 1 X? mine is. After reading several forums on this site and others I tried to run my tabs down at about 25% which is a 5 count. That seemed to take care of my problem so far. I have ran the boat with 2people 25% tabs down trim at 1/3 or better 70mph gps and I am running a Mirage + 25p at 5000 rpm. Since I boat in northern MIchigan I have run out of time this year to do anymore testing. I have a buddy who has an 09 22C 496ho same set up as mine running a Rev 4 prop with Zeiger power steering that came with the boat from the factory. I drove that boat and HUGE difference. You can take your hands off the wheel at +65mph. Now, he is running a lot of tabs too but hitting 72-74 mph gps. I am thinking that I might look into the power steering and also would like to try his Rev 4 in 25P next season. Anyone have any input with power steering affecting how these boats handle? At 70 mph it wants to drift to port and is very hard to bring it back even with port trim down a bit more.

Mine is a 496 (non-HO) with a Bravo 1 drive. Dimensionaly, I believe the Bravo 1 and Bravo 1X are the same.
It's apparent from reading other posts and my experience, every one of these boats performs differently, and there appears to be no ryme nor reason to it, although I'm sure there is.

class6 09-16-2016 09:48 AM

I'd say it's more the different drivers

Br1dgemann 09-16-2016 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by snave8 (Post 4481985)
So the boat runs 69-70 MPH GPS pretty consistently now with the Bravo 1. At a lower elevation, I'm sure I'd be into the low 70's. Handles WAAAAAY better all around.
In order to run wide open with the tabs all the way up, I need to trim it all the way out, which is at the halfway point on the gauge. If I leave the trim down at say 1/4 on the gauge, and no tabs, I get a mild porpoise.
I can run approx 65-67 mph in rough water with a bit of down tab and the boat handles great.
I tried installing the Turbo 1 prop that I have. The Imco Shorty I had installed has a 1 1/4" prop shaft, so we had to go with a merc solid hub kit. When I installed the turbo 1, there' was waaaay too much slop. I could literally move the prop side to side on the shaft, so I took it off without trying it.
I'm not sure why....The flo-torq hub I used with the stock lower unit worked fine with both props, but with the solid hub kit, the Bravo 1 fits properly, but no way on the Turbo.........Anyone have an idea why??

This may sound dumb, but the solid hub I have has 4 strips of rubber. Is it possible the little rubber strips are missing giving you the slop you are mentioning in the turbo prop?

Pat McPherson 09-16-2016 09:59 AM

[QUOTE=scottdonzi2004;4481444]So Mark... I just purchased a 04 22 Anniversary and expierenced some of the same issues you described. Is you outdrive a Bravo 1 X? mine is. After reading several forums on this site and others I tried to run my tabs down at about 25% which is a 5 count. That seemed to take care of my problem so far. I have ran the boat with 2people 25% tabs down trim at 1/3 or better 70mph gps and I am running a Mirage + 25p at 5000 rpm. Since I boat in northern MIchigan I have run out of time this year to do anymore testing. I have a buddy who has an 09 22C 496ho same set up as mine running a Rev 4 prop with Zeiger power steering that came with the boat from the factory. I drove that boat and HUGE difference. You can take your hands off the wheel at +65mph. Now, he is running a lot of tabs too but hitting 72



External steering pistons and full hydraulic helm is the best steering system and recommended for boat that go 70+mph.
I have a 1996 22C with stock 502 and Bravo drive. She has cable steering and the gimbal is still tight. She has no ill handling issues and she tops out at 73mph on GPS spinning a 25p Merc Rev 4. I run tabs full up unless I have an unbalanced load or need to keep the nose down in the rough.
External pistons and hydraulic helm are on the list of upgrades if I decide not to sell.

snave8 09-16-2016 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4482020)
I'd say it's more the different drivers

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

snave8 09-16-2016 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Br1dgemann (Post 4482027)
This may sound dumb, but the solid hub I have has 4 strips of rubber. Is it possible the little rubber strips are missing giving you the slop you are mentioning in the turbo prop?

Nope, the 4 strips are firmly in place....First thing I checked.


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