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Tony Montana 09-14-2007 03:48 PM

Konrad or Merc
 
Which drive is going to give more hours of service and dependablity? Is stronger? Konrad or Merc NXT.

Griff 09-14-2007 03:57 PM

I don't think you will be able to get the NXT without buying a 700sci package.

fountain4play 09-14-2007 04:15 PM

My guess is probably the Konrad depending on power and the NXT is supposed to only be available as a complete assembly as Griff mentioned. I haven't seen a whole lot of real world information on the NXT as of yet...

Lofty 09-14-2007 06:24 PM

I've got WAY more trouble free hours out of our Konrads than any Merc I've owned other than SSM drives. I think my Konrad customers will agree as none of them have had a drive fail yet either. Not saying the Konrads won't brake, we just haven't seen it yet.

Tony Montana 09-14-2007 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 2272039)
I don't think you will be able to get the NXT without buying a 700sci package.

Yes I know you can't get them yet. But if we compare just the drives. I know they are very new so its hard to say too. Guess I am just looking to hear from anyone who owns either of them. And of course the oso "expert" opinion is always welcome:);)

monstaaa 09-17-2007 01:40 PM

considering the nxt uses the internals of a #6 i would think they are more dependable.

Lofty 09-17-2007 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by monstaaa (Post 2274657)
considering the nxt uses the internals of a #6 i would think they are more dependable.


They do?!?!?

Lofty 09-17-2007 01:47 PM

The trany for the NXT has the same cone clutch design as the Bravo and we all know how reliable that is.

Mr Gadgets 09-17-2007 02:18 PM

All speculation until the Fat Lady Sings!
I heard rumor of a 1075hp motor in front of an NXT setup in a 30' boat and it didnt break. But, we wont know until she does sing...
There are always issues with new products, and it will be awhile till the public can get there hands on them. Although there are people splitting packages already, they are very pricey..

Just my 02.

Jassman 09-17-2007 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 2274671)
The trany for the NXT has the same cone clutch design as the Bravo and we all know how reliable that is.


There is alot more to it than that. Jeff

Lofty 09-17-2007 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2274972)
There is alot more to it than that. Jeff

True, just don't have the $75k per side to try them out.

Jassman 09-17-2007 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 2274985)
True, just don't have the $75k per side to try them out.

That might be the retail price..for the 700/NXT package...I will let you know how they fair out on a big heavy V. The majority of kinks were worked out early on, and Nortech to date has 16 units out there without a problem. So far so good....Jeff

monstaaa 09-21-2007 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Lofty (Post 2274667)
They do?!?!?


as i am told yes. but i am no drive expert, unless when it comes to finding their limitations.

CNC 09-23-2007 11:10 AM

Are the NXT's a upgrade from Bravo's or the next generation #6?

DaveTic 09-23-2007 10:25 PM


The trany for the NXT has the same cone clutch design as the Bravo and we all know how reliable that is.
No the NXT has a transmission located in the stand off box.

If you look real hard you can find a coulpe of NXT drives that someone has seperated form the motors for sale, I believe that it was $50,000.00 for a pair

Elite Marine 09-23-2007 10:46 PM

If you can buy an NXT separate, what is the warrnaty honestly and what HP are you putting this on?

Konrad offers 1 year on 800 HP.

They are unbelievable people to deal with and are not a huge money grubbing machine like Merc. :D

Again, if I can be of any assistance with techinical data, real world installation help or pricing, please let me know at:

[email protected]

Kirk

Mr Gadgets 09-24-2007 06:58 AM

DaveTic,
where did you hear that price?? I heard $75/pr..

cigrocket 09-24-2007 07:53 AM

I've had great customer service from Konrad. Kurt has been great to deal with, always there to answer questions and help out. Try getting somone on the phone at merc, and then try to get satisfaction. Just my experience so far. The drives did what they were supposed to do as advertised. I'd buy them again.

Lofty 09-24-2007 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by DaveTic (Post 2281940)
No the NXT has a transmission located in the stand off box.

and in that transmition you will find cone clutches, they do not use a conventional transmition. How do you think they get it so small?

Lofty 09-24-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by DaveTic (Post 2281940)
If you look real hard you can find a coulpe of NXT drives that someone has seperated form the motors for sale, I believe that it was $50,000.00 for a pair


I looked real hard and found a pair for $75k and NO warrenty unless you couple them to approved Merc power.

I'll stick to the Konrads for $50k for a complete package with warrenty, customer support, lattitude to couple to anyones power package and a real solid trany from BAM.

sunchaser796 09-24-2007 12:02 PM

Konrad Drives will be the next replacemnt drive for Bravo drives. Our company has done two Sonic Boats and both owners are very happy. For more info on Konrads please call Doller Offshore Marine @954-237-0332. Ask for Mac or Mindi and you can also visit the web site www.dolleroffshore.com

DaveTic 09-24-2007 08:20 PM

I didn't remember how much, just thought it was to much. $75 could be right.


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