More TRS help????
 

Reading the other thread.........

So do you think my TRS's will handle
the bower motors I am putting in my 42' Excalibur if I am easy on the Gas?

They are 502's with 714 cam, mild ported heads, intercooled
8-71 about 4% over driven?
Guess hp around 650-700..

What do you think?
I have borg warner trans.


Johnny

Well, you have a heavy boat with a lot of power for the drives. A lot will ride on how it's driven. Be easy on the throttles, keep the props in the water and run a 3 blade to give some slip, will be your best bet. There are a number of guys that have made them last. With that power though, ya might want to look at a Konrad set up.




Darrell.

Same suggestion. If you end up wanting to upgrade, let us know. We can get you a nice price on Konrads.

Elite

Those Konrads are sweet looking.

But the cost.:eek:


I think I will keep the throttle's on low.:D:D


Man, I thought my other hobbies were expensive,
(shotguns, Bamboo fly rods and my kids)

I had no idea this offshore stuff is so $$$$$$



Johnny

I had a friend that had 725HP NA engines in his '86 Top Gun and he would blow a drive a year, but that thing only had one speed and that was to the wood all the time. He was out in 3-6 footers all the time. He had a don't care attitude and wasn't trying to save drives. He was also running Hydromotive Q IV 4 blades that didn't help the cause.

I think they will live if you easy on them.

Rookie,
I would think with that kind of "attitude" many drives would fail???

Would the Konrads take that kind of abuse??

Johnny

My Konrad drives have worked flawlessly behind 700 hp blower motors. Installed March 2004, never been apart. 360 hrs.

Konrads on my Mistress, 675HP. The TRS solution

The TRS' will hold up fine if you're nice to them. The Starb (counter rotating) drive will be the first to go, they usually are.

The Konrad is a good solution after you get tired of the cost and downtime involved in repairing an aging TRS.

We're running a Fountain 8.8 with 675HP mills in front of the Konrads. No problems and yes they take some serious abuse.

I thinK I am at the stand off point...

Do I just cruise to save drives???
Do I spend 20K plus on a $50K boat???
I can't see getting that much more resale with
Konrads installed.

So, looks like my choice's are,
If I want to hit it hard in the ocean I better pony up for the drives...

OR

Just cruise the harbors and big lakes with what I have.......


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Johnny

How about Option 3:
Buy the Konrads and use the boat the way you want. When you go to sell/upgrade, take the Konrads off the old boat and put them on the new boat that you got a killer deal on becasue no one else wants a TRS boat :D:D

You can sell your TRS stuff for a good chunk to recupe your upfront expenses of the Konrad swap over. Probably get at leaste 6-7K back easy more if you want to waite a bit for people that need them in a pinch.

Jon

Wish konrads were developed back in the 90's, so we can find used ones for sale on the net! Awesome drives.

If one can afford the up front cost, in the long run I thnk its the best option.

Down time, rebuilds, etc for trs would quickly add up.

Still on the fence,
Thanks for all the advise!
They sound like the way to go.

Just will have to wait for the rest of the boat to get done and see how much $$$$ is left (wife keeps upgradeing).
I put a budget on it when I got it (Nov 07)and I have raised it twice.
Should be ready for water around late July(hope,hope,hope!)
Just don't want to spend much more then it is worth.
With out the drives I think I will be in her about $35k.
Not bad for a totaly rebuilt boat, but still its 20+ year old.

Might have to be easy on her for a year then next summer
change drives.
Again I am new to the offshore,
Had v-drives and jets before. Many boats..
Just wont haul azz to Catalina, just make it a Sunday drive.


Matter of fact just called on a couple of jet boats for my 13 year old.
We can use it this summer and rebuild it over the winter and he will learn this boat stuff.

Johnny

Johny, lets see some rebuild pictures in the Excalibur section. I would love to see what all you are doing. That boat is not going to be in the air much. Baby the TRS's. I am helping with another 40 Excalibur that is going to run 650 through TRS... hoping for the best.

Hawk,
Was at the boat yesterday going over the items I am jumping on next.
Battery(camera) was dead so no photo's,
Been doing alot of thinking about not putting the blowers on.
Just leave it alone and use it in lakes and such.
just don't trust the boat as it is for the big pond.
For a major re-do, it would take me all summer and winter.
So, I think I will just finish the cabin, paint the outside and go through the motor that has a problem.
Have some fun this summer.

It really needs to be gutted and rerigged.
Love the boat, just can't see spending the money that it would take to get it to what I want.
When it is only worth around $40k.

The really sad thing is,the hull is in very good shape, no stress cracks.
I could see it being a fun boat that could be reliable.
We will see how this summer goes and you never know I may still re-rigg it ........

Johnny