Boatlesss

I hear you. Simple math does not work in the real world. Maybe it does in the make believe world but not the one I live in.

Cig man. From what I've read the drive debut was in LA boat show last Jan/Feb/March of this year? At that point it was the "First one" so how could they claim it was tested already? If so they would have named the boat and the details.

People with boats are so gullable. If it would have ran for the past two years they would have put pictures up with it on a BOAT that was running two years ago. The first web site seemed to have all they had at the time, a concept. Which there is absolutely nothing wrong with if they just tell the truth and present it as such. As for its update, why do they not list the speed and such of the test boat? Sorry, just seems far to suspicious. If this was March I would say it would be a good April fools joke.

hillbilly24

Do you have something personal against the people involved in this project? You seem WAY to suspicious about their product. They aren't taking any one's deposits and they haven't asked for money from anyone yet. It seems to me that they are trying to stage the launch the right way, If they published all the data from the start and then had problems during testing they would look pretty bad. They also want to build market interest to peak at the debut of the product, not 2 years before. This also would have given competitors 2 years to work on a comparable product.

Just let them bring the thing to market and see what happens, your attitude towards the people involved in this project sucks. Basically you are being a A hole for no reason here. Lastly you little comment about everybody who owns a boat being gullible is just out of line. Most of the people on here are intelligent and successful people, that's why they can afford these toys we all love so much.

Boatlesss

The only issue I have is with the B.S. Like I stated, post truthful facts and it would be a lot better for them and everyone for that matter. Your personal crusade is admirable but futile none the less. I think it looks like a COPY if a Merc. Therefore I'd buy the Merc. Caveat emptor

hillbilly24

My personal crusade? WTF are you talking about. I am not trying to push their product or endorse it in any way, all I am saying is you should quit being so cynical and let them bring their product to market and see what it does. People are smarter then you seem to give them credit for, let them do their own research and decide if this thing is right for them when it becomes available.

2112

Which model is it a copy of ?

two-air

There is another option made out on the west coast: the Weismann Surface

Dhttp://www.weismann.net/Products/wmd.htmlrive:



Pat Weismann I believe was the first one to dry sump the #6 definitely worth a look at.

Frank

DMOORE

Weismanns are bad ass. But I believe the prices are up there with the #6. And, ( and this is the big part) it wont replace a Bravo ( without a total re-rig).



Darrell.

racer-x6

so now what do you do about the gimble assy.?

kap328

Comment:

This drive is for real BUT the setup will need work and the more boats this drive ends up on the better it will be for all boating consumers.

The gimbel I am really not worried about---why! well you have guys putting 1400 + HP to a Bravo drive and gimbel and they are not breaking. If this drive transmits the power properly to the prop the gimbel should not fail--- it might wear out at the nut or stretch the u bolts, but fail I don't think so and this fear based issue will dissappear.

NOW---on the flip side this thread has hit on a lot of great points.

1. Not all boats can run a surface drive---it will take them miles and RPM's just to plane out. No thanks.

2. The stock Bravo I prop is a must for those looking to replace our current Bravo drive with one that won't break every 25 hours.
----Also I do not want a cleaver prop on the back of my boat I still want to swim off the transom and not need stitches.

3. The skeg needs to be longer--wedge shaped--- I and many others cannot have such a high X dimension and small skeg and still pleasure boat around or put it in go fast mode and lose control of the boat at higher end speeds 100+ by having it skate or crab all over the place.

4. The price is also something that must come down if any vendor is going to carry it and make some type of profit margin on it by stocking the part. The price has to be reasonable. I'll say it--- reasonable is within 20K other than that price range and it will be a drive for only a few elite rico/rich dudes who play with 30-35K like it's a couple hundred bucks.

I have been extremely pumped up about this product someone has to build a better drive than what is out there now and within reach of the average to above average performance boater.

I spoke to Bill and he is a down to earth guy and he wants what everyone of us wants---a drive that can handle some HP and not break every time we go out and run. Who wins in that scenario the consumer everytime---yes---he does too if he makes some duckets on this product, but so what, he is the one stepping up to make it work.

Hopefully, I will have one on my boat here real soon set up right and ready to go. Why! well I like to put new stuff on and see if I can break it--- I am real good at that .

What is the worst that can happen it doesn't work and I'm back to what I had before.

Honestly, it scares me if it really works perfectly and then I gotta have one---- hopefully with a hub conversion for Bravo style props or a different prop shaft for those that want that set-up.

I am very hopeful with fingers crossed.

KAP

HotPursuit

Bravo Gimals dont break wow since when.
I break # 6 Gimbals.
Dont get me wrong I love private and new design,see Karl Kiekfier,Wiesman all great ideas bought up by Merc.

Whats the worst that can happen? Gimbal breaks thats rated 500hp and you endup died cause with 1400HP you will be hauling a**.The attourneys will be standing in line,the best part is The head lines read Another Power Boat Fatality.

I will stand by my first post 1500 drive= 1500 Gimbal
Thats why #6 Gimals cost more than the drive.