Tell me about the ASD6 bravo conversion
 

Just a few questions on this conversion.
1.) Price
2.) Advantages over Bravo
3.) Speed Differences
4.) Pad bottom boat with Surface Drives?

My latest project wont have drives or engines in a 33' pad bottom V. Im researching what drives to put on and have considered XR's for the most part. But Ive always loved the roostertails and reliability of a surface drive. HP will be roughly 700/side but dont have room in the bilge for transmissions. The boat was originally a bravo boat boat. Other than reliability and looks, what other advantages are there to making the conversion?
Im concerned about the pad bottom on this boat affecting the drives, is this an issue at all?

The pad bottom will not make a difference. The Fountains have a "Pad Bottom" and we have proven that the Arnesons work extremely well on the Fountain Powerboats, sizes ranging from the 10M, 12M, 38', 42' and 48' models the Arnesons were and are a Fountain Factory option.

We have applications with Velocity's, and other pad bottom boats as well.

Power is not a problem as you are within the warranty limits of the #7M's.

Speed: Typical 10 mph midrange and 10 mph top end over a Bravo.

List price is $23K per side.

ASD has a test on a 382 Formula supporting the 10mph claims. The ASD/Bravo conversion puts the transmission in an extension box so that is not a problem. IMO, there are 2 factors that would send me to the ASD drive. If this boat needs drives, steering, and possibly transom assemblies. then you'd be spending close to the same money setting it up for XR's (some price offset by selling the transom assemblies) BUT...you'd end up with something that WILL eventually break with 700hp. 2nd, you don't plan on swimming around the back of the boat often....those props are out there, and sharp.

I've never had anything but Bravo's but I looked into the conversion with interest. I can't justify swapping everything over since I have all the hardware already but if it's an un-rigged boat I think it's a great option once you price all the items your missing.

This might give you more information on the kits. Note phone # is missing a digit.. oppps.

Can you give an example of a speed difference on a 42 Fountain

Can I convert a 43 Black Thunder ove to ASD's. The Boat currently has Bmax's. Let me know prices and what all is involved

The ASD's don't break...that might be an advantage!!!!

Rik I see a bravo style prop on it? everything ive seen has the speedmaster style.

ASD "Knowing ya want be ideling home on one drive":drink:


What sux is,I can build the power but I have to baby sit it:(

So if this is a Bravo conversions, then what part of the Bravo stays? What is the advantage of Bravo style props versus Speedmaster?

Anyone conver a 33' Eliminator?

Thats the drive they released not too long ago. The housing is bigger to be able to use a 'bravo style' prop, so you aren't only limited to speedmaster style props. I think the going rate was around $14K for the ASD6, if I was building from scratch that's what I would go with. When you break down the cost for a drive, the hydro steering and all the other ancilliaries, the Arneson is a pretty good deal.

Bottom line - Badass :D :smoking:

I'm doing an arneson on new 29 cat right now and in the process of figuring things out I'm pretty sure I ran across that set up. You should call eliminator, I want to say they may have rigged one like that.

and for someone who asked about props. We just made the decision last week and it comes down to this.......

Cleaver vs The more inexpensive prop options. The cleaver is far more expensive, double or triple if not more in some cases. The cleavers can be hard to track down to test, it's been a headache for us. Not many people stock these things and to order one exactly to your specs may take up to 3 weeks (we're doing hering). But, when set up properly it will pay dividends in mid range and top end. I got the impression from everyone I spoke to that it's the superior option. So I guess the extra performance and the few extra dollars are justified to me by knowing I did it right the first time.

there may be useful info on this thread for you.......

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...-new-boat.html

I'm sorry for the confusion, but it is a "Conversion Kit" not an adapter kit so the kit allows you to convert from a "Bravo" or any I/O to an Arneson. The same kit works for Bravos, Alpha's, TRS's and others.

You would not use any components from the Bravo at all. Rather you would, if you had them, remove all the Bravo componentry and install the Arneson Conversion Kit in its place. All the necessary, bolts, nuts, washers and such are included in the kit.

Propellers, depends upon the boat size. I prefer the "Speed Master" style propellers on most applications but there are applications where the Bravo style propellers work far better.

I have a customer with a 06’ 30’ Eliminator Daytona. I do not know how similar the two boats are though.

Like I've said before, you don't want to know how fast you should be going with your power. You have a lot of speed potential in that boat and it is real easy to achieve with the right setup.

I made a new housing last year for the smaller boats to be able to use a more economical propeller, but for your boat I would stay with a Speedmaster style although one could try it both ways.

Rik

I do not have a specific conversion on a 42' Fountain, but I know that the race boats with the same Ilmor engines and one with Arnesons and one with Mercury SSM#6's, the Arnesons are 7-8 mph faster on top end and turn way better.

Bravos would be an even larger difference in speeds across the board.