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firehawk-74 07-18-2009 07:08 PM

Need help w Blackhawk
 
Just got some bad news that my shop found metal in oil of my Blackhawk when doing repair of shifting problem. Looking at options of repair or convert. If repair, what are risks or concerns? Are Bravo parts interchangeable with Blackhawk? Should a competent drive shop be able to do the repair?
If convert, what to? The boat is 21 foot ski-racer built by Martie Wells (Catalina fame) powered by prochrged intercooled 383 small block and runs 90 plus w 31" props, and 85-88 with 29". Really don't want to lose performance so any Bravo conversion would have to have a shorter lower and torpedo style--Speedmaster or Imco.
Thanks for your feedback.
Jim

Boat Tech 07-18-2009 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by firehawk-74 (Post 2913030)
Just got some bad news that my shop found metal in oil of my Blackhawk when doing repair of shifting problem. Looking at options of repair or convert. If repair, what are risks or concerns? Are Bravo parts interchangeable with Blackhawk? Should a competent drive shop be able to do the repair?
If convert, what to? The boat is 21 foot ski-racer built by Martie Wells (Catalina fame) powered by prochrged intercooled 383 small block and runs 90 plus w 31" props, and 85-88 with 29". Really don't want to lose performance so any Bravo conversion would have to have a shorter lower and torpedo style--Speedmaster or Imco.
Thanks for your feedback.
Jim

That is a fun boat you have, Did you do the ski race this year? I believe you can still get some parts, You are better off taking it to a shop that has worked on them before because they should still have all the tools to do the job right. Is the boat in so/cal?:ernaehrung004:

MOP 07-19-2009 08:17 AM

Except for the vertical shaft all the other parts are standard BIII, if you do rebuild it get teh HD gear set for the upper. I ran that drive and loved it no way can you beat the handling.

firehawk-74 07-19-2009 11:59 AM

boat tech: The boats in Nor Cal in Discovery Bay in pleasure use. I keep to river, lakes and Delta use. Boat is a lot of fun, and fast. That's why I'm trying to find a shop who can do the repair for sure.

mop: OK on almost all Bravo 3, that's good news. For upper, are you referring to Bravo X, XR, or XZ gear set? Or is it an HD upper for Bravo 3?

Thanks

Boat Tech 07-19-2009 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by firehawk-74 (Post 2913276)
boat tech: The boats in Nor Cal in Discovery Bay in pleasure use. I keep to river, lakes and Delta use. Boat is a lot of fun, and fast. That's why I'm trying to find a shop who can do the repair for sure.

mop: OK on almost all Bravo 3, that's good news. For upper, are you referring to Bravo X, XR, or XZ gear set? Or is it an HD upper for Bravo 3?

Thanks

If you can not find some one in Nor Cal that you trust, Then there is a shop down In corona that can do it if needed. Quality Performance Marine. [951] 735-5503. But there is shops up in your area that has worked on them before, You will just want to ask around is all. Good luck with it.

Lauderdaleboats 07-19-2009 07:16 PM

Brand New Blackhawk Drive
 
There's a brand new Blackhawk drive for sale on Scream and Fly for 3K. In the stern drive section.

firehawk-74 07-20-2009 01:37 AM

Scream and Fly?? Need a little help here. Link??
Sounds perfect if I get there soon enough.
Thanks, I'll owe you one.
jim

firehawk-74 07-20-2009 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by Lauderdaleboats (Post 2913421)
There's a brand new Blackhawk drive for sale on Scream and Fly for 3K. In the stern drive section.

Found it! Thanks for the help.
Jim

firehawk-74 07-20-2009 01:54 AM

Missed it, was sold beginning of last week.

Boat Tech 07-20-2009 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by firehawk-74 (Post 2913591)
Missed it, was sold beginning of last week.

Hi, Check your private message. Sent you one.:ernaehrung004:

Lauderdaleboats 07-21-2009 07:06 PM

Phil Lipshultz also owns a bunch of Blackhawks. I was over at TNT's drive shop in Miami and there's a ton of them over there which I was told belong to Phil. I don't have a contact number but if you do a internet search for lipship I'm sure you'll find it.

firehawk-74 07-21-2009 09:46 PM

Thanks, I'm on it. Hope this works.
jim

neil450 07-25-2009 01:43 PM

check out max machine worx they build black hawks to the 1000hp level they are in lake havsue ijust talk to them a few months ago it around 5k for a complet build up an by the way i am looking for 29p props

Boat Tech 07-26-2009 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by neil450 (Post 2917956)
check out max machine worx they build black hawks to the 1000hp level they are in lake havsue ijust talk to them a few months ago it around 5k for a complet build up an by the way i am looking for 29p props

I almost sure this is old and he does not have them, But in his web site it said he has 29 pitch blackhawks, Worth a call you never know.Good luck. :hitit:http://www.thepropellercompany.com/

firehawk-74 07-26-2009 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by neil450 (Post 2917956)
check out max machine worx they build black hawks to the 1000hp level they are in lake havsue ijust talk to them a few months ago it around 5k for a complet build up an by the way i am looking for 29p props

Thanks for the lead. I'll check it out.
Only got one set of 29's--on the boat now.
Jim


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