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SS930 05-10-2011 07:21 AM

SSM 6 gear lube?
 
Wondering what the preferred gear lube is these days for the dry sump 6's... other than the Mercury HP lube and ultra expensive *** product.

Also, what intervals are you guys changing the oil at?

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3399145)
Wondering what the preferred gear lube is these days for the dry sump 6's... other than the Mercury HP lube and ultra expensive *** product.

Also, what intervals are you guys changing the oil at?

Torco MTF

racinfever 05-10-2011 08:53 AM

Torco RTF is thinner and has a GL 6 RATING

dbhammer 05-10-2011 11:17 AM

you can buy the merc HP gear lube at west marine if you have a port supply acct for $78 for the 2.5 gal jug. thats not too expensive is it?

SS930 05-10-2011 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by dbhammer (Post 3399384)
you can buy the merc HP gear lube at west marine if you have a port supply acct for $78 for the 2.5 gal jug. thats not too expensive is it?

Not too expensive, I was just wondering what other prefered options were out there these days.

BTW, anyone know the capacity spec for the dry sump 6 off hand?

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 11:56 AM

1 gallon

Coolerman 05-10-2011 12:30 PM

A torco rep I spoke with told me that there is absolutely no reason that you couldn't run the RTF instead of the MTF. The RTF won't break down as bad under extreme pressure unlike the MTF, which leaves less of a cushion between the teeth on your gears.

waconda 05-10-2011 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Coolerman (Post 3399484)
A torco rep I spoke with told me that there is absolutely no reason that you shouldn't run the RTF instead of the MTF. The RTF won't break down as bad under extreme pressure unlike the MTF, which leaves less of a cushion between the teeth on your gears.

How is that Torco working for u guys? :lolhit:

Coolerman 05-10-2011 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 3399490)
How is that Torco working for u guys? :lolhit:

The MTF, not so well..... according to the metalurgist, lmao. We'll see if the RTF is any better. I would really like to try your NEO oil. I'll give you a holler sometime later this week.

txriverrat2001 05-10-2011 12:59 PM

Dry Sump 6's take Torco - DO NOT use High Performance Gear oil -

fill to the vent level at the middle of the drive. Change every 25 hrs.

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 3399490)
How is that Torco working for u guys? :lolhit:

been using Torco MTF with 8 oz of Pro Blend for years along with some buds in Fl and after 100 hour inspection was told gear sets look like new .....

Coolerman 05-10-2011 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by fountainfan42 (Post 3399531)
been using Torco MTF with 8 oz of Pro Blend for years along with some buds in Fl and after 100 hour inspection was told gear sets look like new .....

How much power are you running? Do you run them hard?

fountainfan42 05-10-2011 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Coolerman (Post 3399556)
How much power are you running? Do you run them hard?

a bunch , and we run em like we stole em and Randy @ Marine Drive does our service .

SS930 05-10-2011 02:31 PM

Anybody using Amsoil or any other brands?

Kelly O 05-10-2011 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3399577)
Anybody using Amsoil or any other brands?

Heard from Fountain service they have run Amsoil and Torco at same intervals in sixes and Amsoil looks new at drain compared to dirtier appearing Torco.
Still running Torco in mine, have a case of Amsoil left from Bravo days. May try it out in dry sixes.

waconda 05-10-2011 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Coolerman (Post 3399501)
The MTF, not so well..... according to the metalurgist, lmao. We'll see if the RTF is any better. I would really like to try your NEO oil. I'll give you a holler sometime later this week.

I think our MLW18 would be the ticket for your dry sump 6's.

stainless 05-10-2011 11:38 PM

We've been using amsoil mcf for 2 seasons based on bob teagues recommendation, and everything looks brand new at every drain
We change oil about every 10- 15 hrs to be on the safe side.

07DominatorSS 05-10-2011 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by stainless (Post 3400045)
We've been using amsoil mcf for 2 seasons based on bob teagues recommendation, and everything looks brand new at every drain
We change oil about every 10- 15 hrs to be on the safe side.

MCF, is the absolute best ticket! Oh, by the way, its a motorcycle oil.... Lighter viscosity, cooler op temps, and great protection!!!

SS930 05-11-2011 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 3400002)
I think our MLW18 would be the ticket for your dry sump 6's.

What is the cost per gallon for your MLW18 and what are specs on it?




Originally Posted by stainless (Post 3400045)
We've been using amsoil mcf for 2 seasons based on bob teagues recommendation, and everything looks brand new at every drain
We change oil about every 10- 15 hrs to be on the safe side.

I dont doubt Bob for a second, but I've heard in the past that he uses this 10-40 MCF in his race boat and if this is what he basises his suggestion on, I'm a little skeptical about using it in my own pleasure boat for a couple of reasons... First, I'm sure his stuff gets torn down and inspected far more frequently than my pleasure boat ever will. If something is wearing or needs addressing, it will get caught and replaced. Second, I suspect part of why he runs this is to reduce drag (speed increase), but it comes at some cost (protection). Third, I believe Bob's only running 525's in front of those 6's... I suspect Marvel Mystery Oil would work just fine for the light loads those drives see!


Originally Posted by 07DominatorSS (Post 3400052)
MCF, is the absolute best ticket! Oh, by the way, its a motorcycle oil.... Lighter viscosity, cooler op temps, and great protection!!!

Again, the protection part is what makes me a little nervous about using the 10-40 in the drives. I believe it only has a API GL-1 rating and AMSOIL even says not suggested for use where a GL-4 or GL-5 fluid is required. I would think the AMSOIL Synthetic Marine Gear Lube might be a better fit and offer better protection, but there would be increased drag (over the MCF) from the increased viscosity...

I'm not saying the Amsoil MCF is bad to use, I'm just voicing my concerns for discussion.

fountainfan42 05-11-2011 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by stainless (Post 3400045)
We've been using amsoil mcf for 2 seasons based on bob teagues recommendation, and everything looks brand new at every drain
We change oil about every 10- 15 hrs to be on the safe side.

10 - 15 hours behind 700 hp ? ran 1000s thru Teague platinum + and did'nt change fluid at 10 hour intervals :drink:

waconda 05-11-2011 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 3400109)
What is the cost per gallon for your MLW18 and what are specs on it?




I dont doubt Bob for a second, but I've heard in the past that he uses this 10-40 MCF in his race boat and if this is what he basises his suggestion on, I'm a little skeptical about using it in my own pleasure boat for a couple of reasons... First, I'm sure his stuff gets torn down and inspected far more frequently than my pleasure boat ever will. If something is wearing or needs addressing, it will get caught and replaced. Second, I suspect part of why he runs this is to reduce drag (speed increase), but it comes at some cost (protection). Third, I believe Bob's only running 525's in front of those 6's... I suspect Marvel Mystery Oil would work just fine for the light loads those drives see.

The MLW18 is a 50-60w GL5 and sells for $80.00 a gallon.

rhinoLX 05-11-2011 09:55 AM

Gear Oil
 
Torco does not have the film strength of Hi-Perf oil at higher temps. Torco is a bit thinner but definitely not the longevity of Hi-Perf due to Hi-Perf's greater film strength. Hi-Perf IS allowed for use in the MC8 drive without voiding the warranty. I know it's better in VI's on high HP apps. The upper gears last much longer. Perhaps the synthetic Torco is better.

SkiDoc 05-12-2011 05:40 AM

Where is the best place to buy Torco oil in 5 gallon containers?

SS930 05-12-2011 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by SkiDoc (Post 3401067)
Where is the best place to buy Torco oil in 5 gallon containers?

I've historically bought my Torco products from Autopartsdealer.com.


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