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Pontiaco 02-03-2012 07:54 PM

what drive please????
 
ok I have a 88 regal valanti xl 220, the 350 engine was locked, so im putting a 468 carburated bbc on it making around 550hp with eddie marine headers on it, I been reading about drives , pitch angles 3-4-5 blades and i'm completely lost, I want this boat to be a cruiser with some nice top end , I been a drag racer all my life, kind of new on boats, but this 2.0, 1.5 gears is driving me loco, also I want to this instalation to be as simple as posible while been durable as possible, thanks, possitive thoughs please!!!

GTOFFSHORE 02-03-2012 09:25 PM

If that motor is really making that much power it has to be doing it at a lot of revs. You would need to use a bravo1 but those dont like goin over 6k rpm amd i am sure your motor wont like doong it for very long either. Most marine 454 etc make 400 to 500hp tops at around 4400 to 5000rpm. A 1.5 ratio with a 4 blade bravo 1 prop will give you best all around performance. I m going to guess a 24p prop is a good start.

A.O. Razor 02-03-2012 09:32 PM

Poker has some good points. At which rpm do you make max power? If you spin about 5500-5700 rpms or more, the Revolution4 in a 25" would be a better starting point for baseline testing imo than the B1. Your hull would like the bowlift of the stock Rev4 more than the flatter lift of the stock B1.

GTOFFSHORE 02-03-2012 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by A.O. Razor (Post 3609134)
Poker has some good points. At which rpm do you make max power? If you spin about 5500-5700 rpms or more, the Revolution4 in a 25" would be a better starting point for baseline testing imo than the B1. Your hull would like the bowlift of the stock Rev4 more than the flatter lift of the stock B1.

You are right I keep forgetting how bad azz the rev 4 's are. I used one on my old boat and it was amazing.

Pontiaco 02-04-2012 12:17 AM

my motor made 556hp @5700 rpm and 585 ft @4700rpm,thanks guys, what u think may top speed will be?

GTOFFSHORE 02-04-2012 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by Pontiaco (Post 3609206)
my motor made 556hp @5700 rpm and 585 ft @4700rpm,thanks guys, what u think may top speed will be?

Well whats more important is where does the hp stop making anymore power. That's the rpm you want to prop to. No point dragging the revs out past that. Thats very goos power from that size engine. What exhaust are you using? There is no real way to saying how fast until you get a baseline. Also remember that after 70 in a boat that small you will need hydro steering or it will be scary and dangerous.

A.O. Razor 02-04-2012 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by jamfazal (Post 3609224)
my profession is Horse rider. i am Horse rider last 10 year now my age is 17 years. Now i am able for Horse racing can you tell me which area that use for Horse racing specially for under 17 years. If you have knowledge share here then i participate in this race and improve my skill.

You will need to strap a set of 34" Maximus props to that horse.:riding: It will go really fast.:bunnydance:
:hijack:
I think you got the wrong forum dude. Please keep this stuff out of other folks threads
:ban::signs036::ban:

A.O. Razor 02-04-2012 10:56 AM

For maximum speed, the Mirage+ in a 25" will also be a good choice. Speed wise you should shoot for high 70's. My guess is your x-dim is rather conservative around 14"-14½" so the Revolution 4 will work if you go for good mid range cruise and the Mirage+ will be the prop for speed.

mach1magnum 02-04-2012 12:25 PM

but still it is going to have to be bravo 1 with 1.5 to 1 ratio in this guys opinion alpha that was probably on it stock will not hold up and also better think about upgraded way to mount the engine that much horse power is going to be violent at 5700 rpm going to need more than lag bolts holding it in

A.O. Razor 02-04-2012 06:51 PM

You want to run a B1 X or XR with 1.5 ratio. Replace parts when they fail. The cut out for the Alpha and Brave are the same, easy swap. Just remember to install a RWP on the motor if it ran an Alpha.

Pontiaco 02-04-2012 07:19 PM

thanks guys, I'm gonna reinforced where the motor seats, the boat did with the alpha drive, what about the coupler??? use the same or not???

GTOFFSHORE 02-04-2012 07:23 PM

Use a bravo 1 coupler. The full circle one not the 3 star one. As far as reinforcing not sure what your planing just make sure you keep the alignment good.

dereknkathy 02-05-2012 06:22 AM

this boat will be very dangerous if you put that much power in it. it is a 22 cuddy designed to top out at 50 and cruise at 35 to 40. go get some oval or peanut port heads and a standard marine cam. you will not be running that engine in that boat at the rpm's it is designed for. use the headers if they fit. otherwise aluminum merc style manifolds through the prop. alum because boat is gonna be tail heavy with that motor. you will still be able to turn a 23 to 25 prop and hit 60. but you are not gonna be wasting fuel driving a race motor at 3500 rpm.

A.O. Razor 02-05-2012 07:12 AM

With the power, you will need full hydraulic steering, but to say it's down right undrivably dangerous is making too much of a deal out of it imo. But the full hydraulic steering is without question a must, as an absolute minimum hydraulic assist. Tabs would also be a nice addition if they are not already on.

Pontiaco 02-05-2012 08:23 AM

thanks guys , the boats has full power steering, Im not planning to go racing with this boat, I just wanted to have a mean sound and balls to back it up, would flaps help?

Greatlaker 02-05-2012 08:35 AM

Flaps????

A.O. Razor 02-05-2012 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Pontiaco (Post 3610007)
thanks guys , the boats has full power steering, Im not planning to go racing with this boat, I just wanted to have a mean sound and balls to back it up, would flaps help?

Do you by that mean full external hydraulic steering? The stock merc power steering is not going to do it. With that power, you'll be all over the place. And as I said, look into trim tabs, if you don't already have them. Latham, Dana or K-Planes work well.

dereknkathy 02-06-2012 05:54 AM

you are not planning on going racing. ok, but that engine is only good for racing. it will be bored to tears at 3600 RPM. and you will be wasting fuel big time with those ports and valve timing set up for 6000 RPM. a stock 330 HP big block will do everything you want in spades in a 22 cuddy. kissimmee fl. are those lakes fresh water? big blocks don't like salt in them. any significant ocean time and you need closed cooling system.

Pontiaco 02-06-2012 10:07 AM

this motor makes over 500 ft @ 4k, how is that bored? and I didnt say I was concern about fuel milage, the motor will have a closedloop cooling cause I have aluminum heads, thanks!


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