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Don Johnson 03-18-2014 03:19 PM

Wilson Blueprinting
 
I am considering blueprinting the 6 lowers on my DCB. Whom has used Wilson and what was before and after results? Not just top speed. I am actually more interested in cruise speed and acceleration results. I spoke to them and they sound very legitimate and claim great all around results.

Thanks!

Karaokemike 03-18-2014 03:40 PM

Very honest and fair company to deal with would highly recommend them!

88bullet 03-18-2014 04:59 PM

I have seen they do #6 and bravo stuff. Any idea if they do speedmaster 3,4,or5 stuff?

BUP 03-18-2014 07:02 PM

Just saying I do not think Wilson blueprints any of the Bravo drives.

KWright 03-18-2014 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Karaokemike (Post 4091896)
Very honest and fair company to deal with would highly recommend them!

+1 They do nice work.

KWright 03-18-2014 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4092013)
Just saying I do not think Wilson blueprints any of the Bravo drives.

They do both the sportmaster plus the regular one too.

SRQ 03-18-2014 09:34 PM

Wilson does do Bravo Sportmaster drives.
I just received one back from him last week. Beautiful work.
The only thing I wished I would have done different was handed him an assembled gear case. Putting the gear case together now is a nightmare. The edges are RAZOR sharp and I have the cuts to prove it !
The gear case I received also came with what he called a ceramic coating. It is a clear coat that is slippery.
All in all beautiful work.
WB

BUP 03-18-2014 10:27 PM

I was only referring to just a Bravo app. I knew they did the sportmaster lower. Anyways good to know that they now are blueprinting bravo's with bravo lowers to be perfectly clear.

The reason is in this post I thought they were not doing bravo's with bravo lowers again to be clear.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...-marine-5.html

This is a good link about them and their services at that timeframe. Post 46 says they have never worked on one but would see benefits but the paint is the problem. So I thought maybe they did not want the Bravo at that time.

I will be talking to them tomorrow anyways and hopefully everyone look down the road for a tech article by them. A little heads up if everything works out.

SRQ 03-18-2014 10:44 PM

BUP, Sorry I should of read your post a little slower.

If you talk to Wilson tomorrow jokingly advise him to include a box of band aids with his finished product. Sharpest edges I've ever seen on aluminum.

WB

BUP 03-18-2014 11:45 PM

I'm cool I was trying to be clear also. So you want me to tell Mark that you decided not to install your new Wilson Blueprinted drive because your testing it for Brazilians. Just saying if its that razor blade sharp its doing double duty.

SRQ 03-19-2014 08:16 AM

Well I never thought of it that way but yep. - lol
With that new ceramic coating he's using if the owner were to ever hit a school of fish, turtle or a log I believe the military would classify it as a weapon of mass destruction. No question in my mind who'd win that battle.:)

The work is flawless and hate to see it go in the water. I thought it looked better on my living room table but my wife begged to differ. lol

Enjoy
WB

BUP 03-19-2014 11:57 AM

Do you have all your test data before your services from Wilson Marine ? Also what is your boat and specs & motor specs ? I have a reason as to why I'm asking. I will post it afterwards. THX for your time.

Boatlesss 03-19-2014 06:39 PM

What about BBlades? They off the same and didn't Hering also do this?

ICDEDPPL 03-19-2014 07:02 PM

common dude!
 

Originally Posted by SRQ (Post 4092115)
Wilson does do Bravo Sportmaster drives.
I just received one back from him last week. Beautiful work.
The only thing I wished I would have done different was handed him an assembled gear case. Putting the gear case together now is a nightmare. The edges are RAZOR sharp and I have the cuts to prove it !
The gear case I received also came with what he called a ceramic coating. It is a clear coat that is slippery.
All in all beautiful work.
WB



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mcprodesign 03-19-2014 07:45 PM

Funny story. I spent all winta blueprinting my bottom and my sportmaster drives. Got 98.0 on gps. Then all i did was send the drives to wilson. Got them back and ran 96.7. 2 different days and same speed. But the boat did seem to get on plane better.So if you are in so cal . Do ship them all the way to wilson or Just let me do them.:lolhit:

SRQ 03-20-2014 08:03 PM

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Well here's the pictures as promised of a Wilson Blueprinted Sportmaster. I tried to take pictures that would show the taper and faring (chord) of the skeg as well as other portions of the gearcase Wilson reshaped. Also it looks like the water inlet hole has been welded up, then widened and moved forward. The rear and side edges of the water inlet are razor sharp just as every other edge on the lower gearcase. The ramp entering the water inlet appears parallel to the propshaft. The gearcase was coated wih some sort of clear coat that I was told was ceramic based. It is slippery stuff, so it feels just like a graphite based coating just clear. I was told I could heat the case up enough to install bearings and it wouldn't hurt the coating just not to use an open flame.
Actual in water testing should take place in about a week.
Warren

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BUP 03-20-2014 08:46 PM

You were not kidding that looks very laser razor sharp. I don't think you will need band-aids, I think you will need stitches after handling that lower unit. Good luck with your new and hopefully improved lower unit.

SRQ 03-20-2014 09:27 PM

Seriously I have all the edges covered with multiple layers of tape and clear vinyl hose for protection while assembling but gloves are still needed because of its coating. When I did the finish internal wash with soap and water prior to assembly it was like trying to hold a pumpkin seed, its that slippery.
I highly suggest breaking the edges of the case mating surfaces before doing anything. It won't effect performance. If I had done that first I wouldn't have had so many cuts.
My compliments to Mr. Wilsons expertise on obtaining such sharp edge on aluminum, of all metals too.
I'll post again when its been tested. I'm sure my client will be very happy.
Warren

Kelly O 03-21-2014 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by Don Johnson (Post 4091882)
I am considering blueprinting the 6 lowers on my DCB. Whom has used Wilson and what was before and after results? Not just top speed. I am actually more interested in cruise speed and acceleration results. I spoke to them and they sound very legitimate and claim great all around results.

Thanks!

They did my #6's last winter, first time getting up on plane was very impressed with how cavitation decreased and boat eased onto plane at lower rpms. Not sure about cruise speed change, but the handling of boat at high speeds was much improved. Much more stable and at top end the speed at which the boat gets loose was raised by 5mph. A great investment for my boat.

pro27 05-28-2014 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=SRQ;4092282]Well I never thought of it that way but yep. - lol
With that new ceramic coating he's using if the owner were to ever hit a school of fish, turtle or a log I believe the military would classify it as a weapon of mass destruction. No question in my mind who'd win that battle.:)

The work is flawless and hate to see it go in the water. I thought it looked better on my living room table but my wife begged to differ. lol

Do you happen to know what the ceramic coating is,and where to get it. Thanks

thirdchildhood 05-28-2014 08:08 PM

Imco lower blueprinted by Wilson. No speed increase and still gets cav burn at the rear of the water inlet.

Smitty 05-28-2014 09:33 PM

Third... Have you called Wilson about your issues ??? What did they say ???

SRQ 05-28-2014 11:19 PM

Pro27 - I never did get the exact product name of the ceramic coating. If I had to take a guess it may be one of Tech Line Coatings products. But this is only an educated guess based on passed experience.

After thorough testing I did not see any gain in speed or handling but please do not take this negatively on Mr Wilsons work. It just did not work for my setup. The boat is a single engine SVL race boat. It appears dual engine rigs have a more positive response and since there are a couple of gearcase designs available I may just have had one that did not respond well. I did make a mold of the gearcase before sending it off and compared it to gearcase afterwards. There is some reshaping of the forward 1/3of the case. The case came back exactly the same length and the skeg had a different chord than stock. The skegs leading edge was impeccable and extremely sharp. There appeared to be a slight curve in the skeg that was quite noticeable as you looked down the gearcase it was slight but measurable. You can almost see it in one of the pictures I took.
I assume it was intentional. I did not notice any real measurable gearcase thinning compared to the original gearcase.
I had a water inlet design that (4years run time) eliminated any cavitation burns and was smaller than the stock opening and still gave plenty of water pressure to the engine. Upon return from Mr. Wilson the water inlet had been completely welded up and remachined with razor sharp edges that can be seen in my pictures. So far the drive has two races and a couple hours of testing and no noticeable cavitation burns. Proof to me about any cavitation burns will be at documented at the end of the race season. Again Mr Wilsons work was impeccable but like everything in racing it all boils down to setup, combination and carefully logged testing. After some tweaking I may hit a sweat spot.


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