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rbpowered 10-15-2015 05:26 PM

Prop Slip or ??
 
I have a 1995 Wellcraft Eclipse 196. It has a 2005 310 h.p. Crusader 5.7 and a Alpha One Gen 2 Outdrive.

Bought the boat cheap to play with while I work on my Formula 242 SS. The first two attempts at taking it out were ended by a fuel issue that ended up being a small piece of debris getting sucked up into the screen in the fuel pickup tube which let enough fuel through for the engine to idle for hours but only about 20 seconds of run time before the carb bowl was sucked dry. Fixed that.

The third attempt at taking it out resulted in verifying that the fuel issue was solved after a few minutes of run time but the distributor pickup decided to crap out so adequate fuel is pretty irrelevant without spark. :lolhit:

Ended up replacing the distributor and took it out today for the first successful (relatively) run. It did not break down, we did not need to be towed back, oil pressure was good, temperature was good, so it was a good couple hours.

Heres the issue, at 3200 rpm the boat goes 30 mph. Not any noticeable increase or change from 3200 to 3500 but when I try to throttle past 3500 engine rpm will move to 4000 but speed falls off. You can watch the tach move up to 4000 and you feel it nose over and hear the engine tone change.

Thoughts?

Tinkerer 10-15-2015 07:53 PM

either the prop hub or the engine coupler is slipping.

rbpowered 10-15-2015 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Tinkerer (Post 4366652)
either the prop hub or the engine coupler is slipping.

How would I diagnose either of those?

rbpowered 10-15-2015 08:36 PM

Also, what would be a good prop for that setup?

Mr Maine 10-16-2015 06:55 AM


Originally Posted by rbpowered (Post 4366669)
How would I diagnose either of those?

Mark the outside ring of the coupler and the input shaft with a white paint stick. Take the prop of and mark the hub and prop same way. Run it and see if they moved. With a bad coupler, you usually see/smell rubber.

Trash 10-16-2015 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by rbpowered (Post 4366672)
Also, what would be a good prop for that setup?

A 3 blade Laser II in 17 or 19" pitch would get you in the ballpark for a good starter prop. A 17 or 19" pitch High 5 would also likely work.

Pliant 10-16-2015 02:08 PM

That hull will respond well to a 17 pitch stilletto perhaps a 19. With a 5.7 it should be a 60 mph boat if the engine is in tune and fresh.....55 if she's a turd.

rbpowered 10-16-2015 07:22 PM

Engines good. 170 compression across the board, no blow by at all.

The marina that dewinterized it claimed 58 mile an hour at 5300 rpm on their test run. All I have changed is a distributor since the pickup went out on the other one and was on backorder. Timing is at 32 degrees at 3000. Was going to play with timing but a bad shift cable bellow was letting in more water than I was comfortable with so didn't want to sit around floating for long. Going to try to fix that tomorrow and try it out again with a different prop and the coupler marked on Sunday.

Should timing be different than what its at now?

Baja170 10-16-2015 07:28 PM

Upper cone clutch slip? Does the RPM jump up quick under load at high RPM? Like a few hundred RPM all at once?

Tinkerer 10-16-2015 07:51 PM

Baja170 - he has an ALPHA drive - no cone clutch.


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