Volvo Penta & Mercruiser
 

Growing up (i.e. long ago) it appeared there was sort of a geographical dividing line between Volvo Penta and Mercruiser use. VP was popular on the east coast, Mercruiser in the midwest, west coast (I can't speak to that). Now for most commercial boats Mercruiser has dominated the market with the exception of 2 quality boat builders I can think of (Cobalt & Crownline). I have always been a big fan of VP drives and come to think of it my last 3 boats had them (not by choice, it just worked out that way). Any thoughts on why Mercruiser is now dominating the market? Is it cost, parts, quality? ...I believe in the past it had been a parts thing.(?)

Throw out the Brunswick owned boat companies ( Sea Ray, Bayliner ) and you might think differently.

If it wasn't a performance application, I'd take a Volvo over a Merc....Volvo actually appears to have an R&D department....merc just copies
what volvo produce's after patents expire.;)

Having just finished an intensive new boat search that included fountains, velocity, baja, sonic, powerquest, etc., almost all of these came with bravo 1's with some in the low to mid 300hp range running alphas. I've seen a few tsr and even fewer "big boy drives"...but really, no VP's beyond cobalt and crownline (I missed the bayliner and sea ray, these weren't under consideration).

Performance boats are predominantly merc powered...you listed Crownline and Cobalt which for the most part, fall into the runabout category...
with that being said, my answer wasn't directed to any specific category, just as a whole.

Performance boats....I've seen a few Scarabs and Formula's with DPX's, but that's about it.

In my world --I have a Cobalt-- we live and boat in southern Michigan. There are very few Volvo dealers or repair facilities nearby. And from what I've been told parts are difficult to get. I know most of the newer Cobalts have been outfitted with Volvo's which is kinda disappointing to me. I have always liked Mercury and Mercruiser engines and outdrives.

My 2 cents

3pointstar

I don't think that is true. You can order any boat with Mercury or VP power. Even the large boats offer Mercury or VP
diesel options. Perhaps what you are seeing is a dealer specific preference. For as long as I can remember the
two dealers I frequent, Gordy's and Beacon, have always sold a majority of Mercury products. Now when I almost
bought a boat from the dealer in Coeur d'Alene, ID, he sells mostly VP equipped boats, he said VP's were just better.
I know for many years there was trouble with the Mercury B3, corrosion and over heating, so maybe some dealers now
choose to equip the smaller runabouts with VP's. Duo-Props and B3's on small under powered boats really improve
the performance.

...and yes I know MOST COBALTS are small slow runabouts...but not all...so you guys with 40 ft. Beaks or Skaters
don't need to rag my a$$. :evilb::evilb::evilb:

Depending on which address I use, home or the lake, I have 3 dealers to choose from as my "local" cobalt dealer. One sells them with nothing but Merc., one sells them with nothing but VP, one only stocks Merc, but will order either. Doing a boat trader search and looking at what is sitting on dealer lots for sale, Volvo is about triple when you look nationwide.
My last boat was a Merc. Current is a Volvo. I've got no issues with either manufacturer.

Many independent boat manu's use Volvo because they are in comp for market share with Bayliner, Sea Ray, Maxum and when Baja was owned by Sea Ray Industries, all of these are Brunswick own boat companies inwhich Brunswick owns Merc and Mercruiser.

Cobalt boats use Volvo Penta in 75 % min of their builds for the past 18 years. Their feeling is why feed the competition profits when buying / installing a Mercruiser / (Sea Ray). Both engines Mercruiser and Volvo has their negatives and positives.

Volvo by fay has a better transom assembly and a better outdrive especially a Volvo DP vs a Merc Bravo III. I know I work on both of them and see day in and day out Volvo has less transom and outdrive problems compared to the Bravo's and the Alpha's.

Also by far Cobalt is a better built boat than Sea Ray year after year. Just saying

IMHO It was because back in the day Merc had trim standard and Volvo Penta trim was a super special option. Also the Merc case is slimmer and more streamlined for performance then the Volvo. Once they were on race boats no one looked back. Win on Sunday sell on Monday.

the 2007 and newer Volvo penta SX and DP are more hydro efficient than the Bravo 1 and the Bravo III.

Volvo even redesigned the skeg as well to help in that area.

The Older Volvo DPX was one heck of a drive for a twin prop app. That drive kills the Bravo III in every aspect.

and here is the streamline - for the the Volvo DP

http://img.nauticexpo.com/images_ne/...503-233069.jpg

And on stock OEM apps NON thru the transom exhaust - Volvo reduces the exhaust back pressure alot better than Mercruiser. I am talking about stock production apps only here.

Hey bup, any chance you just missed the pm I sent with a vp question? If you'd rather not answer, I get it. Just curious is all.

You sent me a PM - I had no idea - when ? 99 % of the time they are full - Sorry about that one. What was your PM about ?

Asking again you mean a OSO PM or email ? I never got either so just checking for the reason how I missed it or never got it ?

and a here is a pic of the Bravo III in comparison of the Volvo newer Volvo DP 2007 to current

http://s66.photobucket.com/user/CAHo...drive.jpg.html

http://img.nauticexpo.com/images_ne/...503-233069.jpg

My next door neighbor has a 24 Cobalt with the 6.0 LS / duoprop Volvo package. It is impressive to say the least. 380 horsepower, small block weight, 6000 RPM redline, accelerates extremely hard. Several people around here run Volvo packages, it's very rare any of them have issues with the drives.

Looks like your PM box was/is full.

I want to add a transom remote trim switch to my Cobalt. VP380 with EVC. I found a plug in the wiring harness labelled remote trim with a blank plug in it. Is it as simple as mounting it up, and wiring in to that harness? At one time I read having EVC meant a second trim switch wasn't an option. Of course Cobalt said take it to your local dealer, who wants $500+ for what looks to be a $60 part and half an hour of work.

Volvo's Electronic Vessel Control system stores the trim positions. if i recall correctly the remote can be hooked up but possible the power trim calibration might have to be performed again for a secondary trim switch and or remote feature function calibrated / set so the EVC recognizes it.

Just some added info. EVC - power trim with lever control(s) button(s) - the lever calibration has to be done first before the power trim calibration . If not done in that order then the power trim will not be activated.

I can see a qualified shop charging 375 bare min for the parts and labor. Cobalt dealers usually are higher with labor plus some mark up parts higher than retail.

Thanks. Glad to confirm the dealer isn't just trying to stick me too bad. What you said sounds like what I was told last year, that adding a switch and moving the drive while the EVC system is off would confuse it. I would have thought the EVC would reset its zero position automatically every time the system started up. I sure do like the auto trim function, especially when I let others drive the boat, but it seems like it's overly complicated for what is a pretty basic function. I think I'll pass on adding the switch unless I start trailering it more than I currently do.

Sorry for changing directions on this thread. My bad as well.