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ICDEDPPL 11-09-2017 07:43 PM

#5 lower case the same as a #4?
 
interchangeable?

class6 11-09-2017 08:42 PM

Yes

endeavour32 11-09-2017 08:52 PM

I don't think you can put #4 gears, shafts and bearings in a #5 case or vise versa, can you? I think to do the swap, the lower would need to be complete with the correct internals in it.

class6 11-09-2017 09:14 PM

Complete will bolt up.

ezrizer 11-10-2017 05:15 AM

Good question and I'd like to know the answer as well. As for a complete lower swap I believe one potential issue could be the polygon vertical shaft in a SSM IV, not sure the V used a polygon shaft.

endeavour32 11-10-2017 07:03 AM

So what is the weak area of the #4? The upper or lower? I know that Gary sells straight cut gears for the #4 that will make it equal to, or close to as strong as a #5.

Griff 11-10-2017 12:32 PM

A SSM4 is a shortened SSM3. A SSM5 is a shortened SSM3A. I believe the main difference is 3A and 5 have bigger shafts.

endeavour32 11-10-2017 04:30 PM

The gears are better in the 5 vs 4 and the bearings are bigger as well. Other than the prop shaft, I don't think there is much difference in the actual shaft size in 4 vs 5. They are cut different. Splined (5) vs polygon (4), but as far as I know, the overall diameter is the same.

ICDEDPPL 11-10-2017 04:58 PM

Finally got a hold of Collabella ,.. the 2 are not interchangeable.
The 5 lower has bigger stuff in it..

ezrizer 11-11-2017 05:51 AM

That makes sense 'cause I researched putting 5 lower intervals in a 4 housing and that wasn't an option.

frickstyle 11-11-2017 08:10 AM

Dan,

Do you have a set of 5s already?

ICDEDPPL 11-11-2017 11:19 PM

I do not ..looking for a set ...

Full Force 11-12-2017 06:05 AM

Justin... sell Dan yours... and go Arneson !!!! it's time for a new project....

MILD THUNDER 11-12-2017 08:27 AM

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From what I know, the #5 lower, has 1 inch thick spur gears. #4 has .750 thick spur gears. The #4 has a polygon vertical shaft, the #5 has a splined vertical shaft. The #5 has a 1.750 propshaft, the #4 has either a 1.375 or 1.750 propshaft.

From what I have heard, is the #5 case, is stronger, and beefed up. The guys racing the #4's back in the 80s were cracking the lower case housing, on fast catarmarans. I dont know if the actual lower gears are physically any larger in a #5, but I do believe the way they are supported in the case, is better. Larger support bearings and stuff like that. Gary K might know the answer on the gears, as he sells the replacements for the #4 and #5 lowers, and had the original blue prints from mercury on them.

The #5 was simply a updated version of the #4. And the 3A, was an updated version of the #3.

MILD THUNDER 11-12-2017 08:41 AM

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Some info ..

endeavour32 11-15-2017 11:04 PM

It's pretty obvious what the weak link is in the #III drive, when looking at the first image.

tommymonza 11-16-2017 01:33 AM

Buy some 3As, Todd beats the living Piss out of his 900s in front of them. and for all the major Airtime over the years they have lived with no damage,

Gotta give him Kudos on the throttles though. He is Johnny on the spot with them,Richie Powers would be proud.

Midvalley 11-16-2017 04:35 PM

some people can blow up a brick **** house tho while others can drop a duke on lace and never get a stain on it.... its more the person than the strength of the equipment on how well things last

ICDEDPPL 11-16-2017 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4594011)
Buy some 3As, Todd beats the living Piss out of his 900s in front of them. and for all the major Airtime over the years they have lived with no damage,

Gotta give him Kudos on the throttles though. He is Johnny on the spot with them,Richie Powers would be proud.

They`re 6" longer. What are you thinking I start second job dredging canals?

MILD THUNDER 11-16-2017 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4594212)
They`re 6" longer. What are you thinking I start second job dredging canals?

drives last longer when they are deeper . Mount a trs even with the bottom on a 38 flatdeck with 900s. Should last a new York minute before they send a mirage plus 100 feet in the air


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