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Mercy racing oil
anyone using the new Merc racing gear oil? I wonder how it compares to Bravoshop Neo or Amsoil. |
Your going to have to post a pic or explain which of the "new" Merc lubes your referring to. They have changed a few times along with the names of each.
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Seen this question in another forum, and as far as I can tell its just another promo hype. Was 80W90 HP, then 90W HP and now racing 80W90. There are no specs that I can find for marine gear lube so all marketing
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Ton of info in this thread, I called Mercury Racing and got the facts straight from them. https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ubes-same.html
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the Quicksilver EXTREME is the Merc racing gear oil , IMO currently this is not as good of an oil when it first came out. I am not saying its a bad oil by no means to be clear. I think one could do better for a 20 dollar per qt gear oil,
Middle of the road marketed the Merc HIGH PERFORMANCE gear oil is a GL IV spec so if one has a drive calling for a GL V spec gear oil it should not be used. Volvo calls for GL V spec gear oil for one example it is a 80 w 90 |
^ This exactly, Hi-Performance is the base oil now and Extreme Performance is for XR thru M8. Mercury Racing and Quicksilver Extreme Performance are the same oil, different package.
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First season running the Merc Racing 85w90 oil. Bought a 5gal pail last fall for $250. I've ran the Hi Performance forever till now. Interesting observation...always had to keep topping off the drive reservoir thru the season with the high performance. No leaks, psi and vac tested drive. With the new Merc Racing oil, I never needed to top off like before. Also, no nasty sludge in bottom of reservoir like the green Hi Performance oil.
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I see exact same! like more the colour as you see better when something wrong with the drive!
Michael |
Originally Posted by Ryan00TJ
(Post 4651523)
First season running the Merc Racing 85w90 oil. Bought a 5gal pail last fall for $250. I've ran the Hi Performance forever till now. Interesting observation...always had to keep topping off the drive reservoir thru the season with the high performance. No leaks, psi and vac tested drive. With the new Merc Racing oil, I never needed to top off like before. Also, no nasty sludge in bottom of reservoir like the green Hi Performance oil.
I would put the outdrive dead level and unscrew the vent screw completely out - does gear oil come out ? if so or if not - stick a thin straw or tie wrap thru the vent hole and see if you get gear oil on it. if not keep bending the straw or tie wrap down ward to see where the oil level is at. The deal for phantom gear oil leaks a short jist of it ---- is when the prop spins it creates a vacuum, the faster the prop spins the more vacuum force is created - this actually can pull the gear oil out past the prop seal. You can pressure test all day long and will hold pressure 100 percent. . Pressure testing is a good test to perform but is NOT a 100 percent valid test for the phantom gear oil leaks especially without fast prop rotation. Bravo 3 are more the norm for this exact phantom gear oil leak. actually all drives are but less common than the Bravo 3. That one is extremely common --- the Bravo 3. |
Fill mine up on a stand, and once it comes out the vent, put vent and drain plug back in. Lift off stand and lay on the floor with vent hole up, remove vent and pour lube in until full. Put vent plug back in and install. It will still drop a little for the first few hours, but not as much if I just filled to the vent. Keeps me from adding lube so often until drive is full
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Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4651647)
Ryan or whomever ----quick jist here to make sure 100 percent your not leaking gear oil. Just because the reservoir stays full means nothing that the outdrive itself is not leaking. It does not take much to plug and or a small kink in the reservoir line or any oil paths restriction down thru to the outdrive. Not uncommon for this to take place - ( a restriction that keeps the oil level full in the reservoir ). I would put the outdrive dead level and unscrew the vent screw completely out - does gear oil come out ? if so or if not - stick a thin straw or tie wrap thru the vent hole and see if you get gear oil on it. if not keep bending the straw or tie wrap down ward to see where the oil level is at. The deal for phantom gear oil leaks a short jist of it ---- is when the prop spins it creates a vacuum, the faster the prop spins the more vacuum force is created - this actually can pull the gear oil out past the prop seal. You can pressure test all day long and will hold pressure 100 percent. . Pressure testing is a good test to perform but is NOT a 100 percent valid test for the phantom gear oil leaks especially without fast prop rotation. Bravo 3 are more the norm for this exact phantom gear oil leak. actually all drives are but less common than the Bravo 3. That one is extremely common --- the Bravo 3. |
Been looking around for best price and found 5 gal and they charge shipping
PPT at 265.48 https://www.perfprotech.com/gearlube...product/518798 BAM at 277.97 https://www.mercruiserparts.com/8m00...gearlube-5-gal Free ship Amazon at 281.97 Ebay is 281.99 https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mercury...-/361859213081 PartsVu is 269.12 https://www.partsvu.com/gearlube-5-gallon.html |
Originally Posted by AllDodge
(Post 4651709)
Been looking around for best price and found 5 gal and they charge shipping
PPT at 265.48 https://www.perfprotech.com/gearlube...product/518798 BAM at 277.97 https://www.mercruiserparts.com/8m00...gearlube-5-gal Free ship Amazon at 281.97 https://www.amazon.com/Mercury-Mercr.../dp/B00YMGNUIC Ebay is 281.99 https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mercury...-/361859213081 PartsVu is 269.12 https://www.partsvu.com/gearlube-5-gallon.html |
Can get at Walmart (+tax) or ebay (no tax) for 20.59, free ship
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Mercury...-/271546913945 Can get it at Crowley 16.99 and BAM 17.96 for less but appears shipping is in the 20 something ship charge. If more is bought the ship goes up slightly for each Wholesale Marine is out of stock, but if they get more in at same price this would be where to get it at 15.16 |
12 qts shipped $ 215 USA only -- And no Hawaii or Alaska that would be extra shipping
BUY AS MUCH AS YOU WANT but 12 qt min. The more you buy the price will go down |
Originally Posted by Ryan00TJ
(Post 4651523)
First season running the Merc Racing 85w90 oil. Bought a 5gal pail last fall for $250. I've ran the Hi Performance forever till now. Interesting observation...always had to keep topping off the drive reservoir thru the season with the high performance. No leaks, psi and vac tested drive. With the new Merc Racing oil, I never needed to top off like before. Also, no nasty sludge in bottom of reservoir like the green Hi Performance oil.
can the racing oil be used in bravo threes? anybody have any recommendations on this? |
I to have B3 and they get hotter then other bravo's just cruising. With it getting black its getting hot. Do you have showers on the drives?
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Originally Posted by AllDodge
(Post 4651999)
I to have B3 and they get hotter then other bravo's just cruising. With it getting black its getting hot. Do you have showers on the drives?
I question whether the oil was ever changed like I was told @ the 177 hour mark. If it was then I think there may be issues? I do not know if oil was changed out regularly. There may be a lot of residue due to lack of changing?? Sorry to the OP for getting off topic. Not trying to steel your thread. |
you need to change gear oil bare min once per year regardless of hours anyways. Black gear oil is from heat and oxidized. Way over do for a change. And question mark the quality of the gear oil itself.
If you are racking up hours during the year then IMO On Bravo 3 --- 40 to 50 hours MAX is all would I do for timeframes. between changes. You always want to check gear oil levels and any moisture content from the drive / gear oil thru out the year as well. It always best to pressure test the drive after draining the gear oil completely out. Not everyone does this procedure but should.. Bravo 3 are leakers thru the prop shaft seal while running. not all but it is NOT uncommon -- more times than not. |
Originally Posted by BUP
(Post 4652032)
you need to change gear oil bare min once per year regardless of hours anyways. Black gear oil is from heat and oxidized. Way over do for a change. And question mark the quality of the gear oil itself.
If you are racking up hours during the year then IMO On Bravo 3 --- 40 to 50 hours MAX is all would I do for timeframes. between changes. You always want to check gear oil levels and any moisture content from the drive / gear oil thru out the year as well. It always best to pressure test the drive after draining the gear oil completely out. Not everyone does this procedure but should.. Bravo 3 are leakers thru the prop shaft seal while running. not all but it is NOT uncommon -- more times than not. I talked to James @ Mercury today. He said I should run the newer Racing/Extreme gear lube. So thats what I m going to do. I probably read 12 hours of threads on oil,gear oil, showers & drive gears in the last 3 nights. It is all sinking in. I m going to dump the oil after the first run next season & showers are going on. Any thoughts on flushing gear boxes? Anybody ever do that? Mercury has no experience or recommendations besides changing out fluid. |
I have found the green Merc oil to be pretty much $hit in my SSM drives.
Everytime I get a drive back rebuilt (always with green stuff) after 10 hrs it starts to expand into my expansion bottles. Drain it and it comes out water thin. I don`t like that stuff at all. Severe gear never expands/aerates like that . |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4652482)
Severe gear never expands/aerates like that . As in Amsoil Severe Gear? |
I had same experience in #6's - $hit comes out like water. I went to Severe Gear.
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4652482)
I have found the green Merc oil to be pretty much $hit in my SSM drives.
Everytime I get a drive back rebuilt (always with green stuff) after 10 hrs it starts to expand into my expansion bottles. Drain it and it comes out water thin. I don`t like that stuff at all. Severe gear never expands/aerates like that . |
so how well does the green stuff have to be flushed out to change to the yellow? drain and fill or more or less flush as much out as possible?
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I have drain out the green oil from bew drive over the winter and mount also clean new lower.
In 10 hours after first change i can tell what colour comes out.I think first 1-2 oilchanges it was a bit green but i will see. Michael |
Oops wrong thread. Sorry.
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