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Old 07-17-2021 | 07:06 PM
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Default Merc 5.0 with Bravo 3 won’t engage forward or reverse

So, we were pulling a tube on our 2003 Sea Ray 200 deck boat, and while cruising at about 20 mph, the drive quit working. I’m new to boating, but it felt as though the props fell off. I quickly put it in neutral, then tried forward and reverse, nothing. No clunk, no rubber smell, just stopped in the middle of the lake. Put boat on trailer and brought it home. Checked upper and lower lube, no water, pure oil. Cable appears to shift fine, but only difference I notice is that throttle/shift lever seems to move extremely hard now. Any similar issues, or any idea where to start trouble shooting? Thanks
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Old 07-17-2021 | 10:55 PM
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From what you’re describing, I’m betting you lost the splines on the coupler.

Does the layout of the boat allow you to be able to look down at the rear of the engine, behind the distributor? If so, you should be able to see the input shaft, back it into the water, start it up and
put it into gear, now look down behind the engine and see if the input shaft is turning, if not, the coupler
is gone
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Old 07-17-2021 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JaayTeee
From what you’re describing, I’m betting you lost the splines on the coupler.

Does the layout of the boat allow you to be able to look down at the rear of the engine, behind the distributor? If so, you should be able to see the input shaft, back it into the water, start it up and
put it into gear, now look down behind the engine and see if the input shaft is turning, if not, the coupler
is gone
Coupler is fine, so I began to dig in further. I’m somewhat mechanically inclined so I searched how to remove drive…… Took drive off back and have it draining/hanging to dig further tomorrow. So far all I’ve noticed is that remote shifter works way easier without shift cable hooked up, can there be something inside I should look for on the shift mechanism? Also removed top driveshaft to inspect top gears, that all looks good so I reinstalled.

another note- with drive off, when I put it in gear and spin input shaft, prop shaft turns sometimes, but not all the time.
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Old 07-18-2021 | 07:00 AM
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A bravo drive is designed to shift with the input shaft turning (motor running). Trying to shift the drive with it not rotating should not be done, and is hard if attempted

another note- with drive off, when I put it in gear and spin input shaft, prop shaft turns sometimes, but not all the time.
something broke inside it appears
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Old 07-18-2021 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Pjokinen
Coupler is fine, so I began to dig in further. I’m somewhat mechanically inclined so I searched how to remove drive…… Took drive off back and have it draining/hanging to dig further tomorrow. So far all I’ve noticed is that remote shifter works way easier without shift cable hooked up, can there be something inside I should look for on the shift mechanism? Also removed top driveshaft to inspect top gears, that all looks good so I reinstalled.

another note- with drive off, when I put it in gear and spin input shaft, prop shaft turns sometimes, but not all the time.
Are you spinning the input shaft both directions? If so, it won’t engage when turned clockwise ( as viewed from the back of the boat) it will only rotate the prop shaft when turned counterclockwise ( viewed from the back of the boat)

Same holds true if you rotate the prop shaft.

If you have the drive shifted into lets
say forward and rotate the props in the reverse direction of rotation,
the clutch will lock up and the input shaft will turn.

If it fails these tests, and since it lost both directions, the next thing I would try
is to split the lower from the upper ( remove the 6 nuts along the side of the case
and the 1 bolt at the rear under the round anode
above the props)

then spin the shafts, they should both rotate either direction

check this out and report back
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Old 07-18-2021 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JaayTeee
Are you spinning the input shaft both directions? If so, it won’t engage when turned clockwise ( as viewed from the back of the boat) it will only rotate the prop shaft when turned counterclockwise ( viewed from the back of the boat)

Same holds true if you rotate the prop shaft.

If you have the drive shifted into lets
say forward and rotate the props in the reverse direction of rotation,
the clutch will lock up and the input shaft will turn.

If it fails these tests, and since it lost both directions, the next thing I would try
is to split the lower from the upper ( remove the 6 nuts along the side of the case
and the 1 bolt at the rear under the round anode
above the props)

then spin the shafts, they should both rotate either direction

check this out and report back
clutch shaft snapped at splines right above coupler to drive shaft. Does anyone know if the shaft is replaceable itself, or do I need entire clutch kit?
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Old 07-18-2021 | 12:57 PM
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The shaft is available separate. 812773T
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Old 07-20-2021 | 10:31 PM
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If you cannot locate a new Clutch Shaft let me know, I think I have at least one spare one.
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Old 07-21-2021 | 06:47 AM
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I have several of them if endeavor does not
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Old 07-21-2021 | 06:56 AM
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Thanks guys, I’ve found a shaft and UPS will be delivering today.
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