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Blueabyss 08-07-2023 08:38 AM

Gear Lube
 
What is the best possible gear lube for an Alpha 1 Gen 2. I know the Bravo's dont like it too slick due to clutch cone but the Alpha does not have that. Have 5500 lb 24 ft boat with a newer 357 magnum Plus series merc. Have been told its 300 hp. Just wanting to put in the best fluid I can.

Chris

Knot 4 Me 08-07-2023 10:36 AM

Amsoil Marine 75W-90.

https://www.amsoil.com/p/amsoil-synt...be-75w-90-agm/

Markus 08-07-2023 12:50 PM

Volvo Synthetic lube. Pricey.

Craney 08-07-2023 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4875852)

Do you think this would be good in TRS drives as well?

PA.WOODCHUCK 08-07-2023 03:58 PM

I've always run the merc stuff!

ICDEDPPL 08-11-2023 10:42 AM

In my 5s the merc stuff turns into water , super thin after a few weekends.
In my 6`s merc fluid expands and foams like crazy, thought there was something wrong with the drives but it was confirmed that is normal with the merc stuff.

Amsoil doesnt do any of that and I always had way less fuzz on the magnets .
Sorry but the merc stuff is junk

Craney 08-11-2023 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4876300)
In my 5s the merc stuff turns into water , super thin after a few weekends.
In my 6`s merc fluid expands and foams like crazy, thought there was something wrong with the drives but it was confirmed that is normal with the merc stuff.

Amsoil doesnt do any of that and I always had way less fuzz on the magnets .
Sorry but the merc stuff is junk

what weight do you run?

Ryan00TJ 08-11-2023 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4876300)
In my 5s the merc stuff turns into water , super thin after a few weekends.
In my 6`s merc fluid expands and foams like crazy, thought there was something wrong with the drives but it was confirmed that is normal with the merc stuff.

Amsoil doesnt do any of that and I always had way less fuzz on the magnets .
Sorry but the merc stuff is junk

I agree the Merc HP green oil is junk. Their newest Merc Xtreme Performance Amber color oil is much better.

ICDEDPPL 08-15-2023 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by craney (Post 4876305)
what weight do you run?

75w110

bajaman 08-15-2023 06:15 PM

Simply use what the manufacturer spent $$$ billions on in R&D.

CheckmateScarab 08-15-2023 07:40 PM

The merc amber oil is what I was told to use and always run

SB 08-15-2023 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by bajaman (Post 4876731)
Simply use what the manufacturer spent $$$ billions on in R&D.

And what in the heck single item have they spent billions on ? :)

1MOSES1 08-15-2023 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4876754)
And what in the heck single item have they spent billions on ? :)

I know us boaters have spent billions on the junk Mercury peddles!!!!

offshorexcursion 08-15-2023 11:35 PM

Amsoil severe gear

Knot 4 Me 08-16-2023 07:57 AM

Remember boys, the OP asked for an Alpha, not Bravo's or SSM's.

I had personal experience with the Amsoil Marine 80W-90 in an Alpha as that is what I used to put in a buddy's boat with a 5.0L/Alpha when I took over doing his winterizations. One year, he lost a shift shaft seal and didn't know it until the gear lube in the reservoir was caramel milkshake. Had another buddy that was a Merc tech at a local marina replace the seal and he went ahead and disassembled the drive to check everything out and better yet, thoroughly clean out all the milkshake. Gears and bearings all looked good (I believe the drive had around 800 hours on it at this point). So Amsoil's claims of it being able to handle a good percentage of water contamination are valid and proven out in a real life scenario.

I believe the drive had almost 1,200 hours on it when my buddy sold the boat. It was still going strong.

Tartilla 08-17-2023 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4876300)
In my 5s the merc stuff turns into water , super thin after a few weekends.
In my 6`s merc fluid expands and foams like crazy, thought there was something wrong with the drives but it was confirmed that is normal with the merc stuff.

Amsoil doesnt do any of that and I always had way less fuzz on the magnets .
Sorry but the merc stuff is junk

There's been lots of testing on rear diff hypoid gears tearing up the muloviscosity chains. It essentially destroys the oil, and that may be what you are seeing...reduction of viscosity.

+1 on the Amsoil Marine gear oil. Apparently, can take 10% seawater and still perform to max spec. Hard to beat that for insurance.

TRS would be good to go. No shifting in TRS drive internals.

SB 08-17-2023 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4876890)
There's been lots of testing on rear diff hypoid gears tearing up the muloviscosity chains. It essentially destroys the oil, and that may be what you are seeing...reduction of viscosity.

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Merc HP gear oil is straight 90W


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...31dfcc789.jpeg




Markus 08-17-2023 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4876890)
There's been lots of testing on rear diff hypoid gears tearing up the muloviscosity chains.

Interesting. Please share some links!

Tartilla 08-17-2023 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Markus (Post 4876895)
Interesting. Please share some links!

Have to apologize for how some of my spelling comes out. My phone likes to go back and change what I've typed...and I have to go back and sort it out...but sometimes I don't catch it.

It really reay happens on OSO forum...not sure why.
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I'll see if can dig up the test. It was more for Diesel rear diffs....but that applies to our needs for sure.

Hypoid gears are when you have a 90° direction change, and the input shaft center is offset from the output shaft center.

Ford 9" rear diffs...are closer to Spiroid gears...where the the in/out shafts are even further apart.

It's a factor because of the sliding action that has to happen.

The helical gears we use will be quieter and straight cut.

Superbikes have that straight cut gear whine...that we've all heard.

Heli gears are quiter in trannys etc...but they have end thrust.
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As an example, on my Arneson drives...the reduction gears that also drop the level of the output shaft, are heli cut. So the case deforms with high HP. You need to reinforce the casing to keep everything together. With that forces also comes less efficient power transfer...along with heat into the fluid.

Tartilla 08-17-2023 01:56 PM

Try this link...is has a link to the Amsoil commissioned study.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ne-amsoil.html


A lot of the original links don't work anymore from almost 20 years ago.


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