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anger mgmt 10-16-2021 06:07 PM

VHF antenna issue
 
Have a mounted standard horizon vhf. Powers up fine, was getting no reception. Replaced antenna wire, new antenna. Same issue. However, when I loosen the connection on the back of the radio to where the coupler isn't touching the threads, it works perfectly. Soon as the coupler touches the threads the reception goes out. I tried a new radio, same issue. Is this a ground issue with the antenna? I'm stumped

zfrilly 10-17-2021 10:01 AM

Maybe a bad cable coax connection. If you have a multimeter you can take the antenna off and radio off, so the wire is not connected on either end, and measure resistance/ohms from the center pin to the threaded barrel. Well here is a detailed link probably better than I can write.

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AllDodge 10-17-2021 12:29 PM

Just for clarity
The antenna and cable has been replaced, and when the new connector was installed on the cable the shield ground is not touching the center conductor.

This happened with both new and old antenna?

If the above is true then the problem is in the cable connector in the radio. Check the connector on the radio and it good, open it up and check wiring to the connector

anger mgmt 10-17-2021 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4809344)
Just for clarity
The antenna and cable has been replaced, and when the new connector was installed on the cable the shield ground is not touching the center conductor.

This happened with both new and old antenna?

If the above is true then the problem is in the cable connector in the radio. Check the connector on the radio and it good, open it up and check wiring to the connector

Yes. I replaced the antenna and the cable. I also thought it was the connector on the radio itself so I got a new radio as well. Same problem. Works fine until I go to tighten connection at radio. Soon as contact is made with the threads it cuts out. If the wire is in the hole unfastened it works. I put a stubby antenna on the deck connection instead of a larger whip style, don't need large antenna. Maybe the issue is on the deck side, I dunno

AllDodge 10-17-2021 08:22 PM

What do you mean by it cuts out?
you hear static and it stops or something else

anger mgmt 10-17-2021 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4809372)
What do you mean by it cuts out?
you hear static and it stops or something else

for example , I'll put on noaa channel with cable fully connected and its just silent,, no static or anything. When I unscrew the cable to where the coupler isn't touching the threads, I get crystal clear reception

zfrilly 10-17-2021 10:27 PM

did you install the coax connector? Did you do any testing with a multimeter?

anger mgmt 10-17-2021 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by zfrilly (Post 4809379)
did you install the coax connector? Did you do any testing with a multimeter?

I did install it. Haven't had any time to test on it with the multimeter yet. When I'm off again I'll be back at it. I did read through that article you posted. Thanks for putting that up.

AmiableDave 10-17-2021 11:11 PM

Sounds like a ground problem. Did you install a chassis ground on the VHF? This is not the +/- power wires.... What did Standard Horizon say??

zfrilly 10-17-2021 11:59 PM

I am an FCC licensed general radio operator. Used to work for Motorola. I have installed tons of coax connectors, and messed up a few. All it takes is one strand out of place. Make sure the foil is also not touching the inner pin. The ground plane should not cause this issue, just poor transmit and receive quality if not large enough. You could by a cheap watt meter and check your whole system.

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