2007 Daytona
 

What would a 2007 Daytona with a Ilmore 625 be worth under 100 hours.
Next what would the ilmore be worth? I am thinking about pulling it and putting my 1200 in it. How fast do you think it would run, would the boat handle these speeds?
Just wondering,
Thanks

Do not know what boat or motor is worth. Boat can handle that HP, drive may be another issue. It is the same bottom as the 26 daytona only top cap differences. I think there was a 26 that ran 140 with a guy that lived in Washington state. Bob Teague drove it trying to make a speed run and I think he broke the drive. That was a number of years ago. He had a number of threads on OSO about it.

Thanks, I will take a look for those post's. I have a SCX I would put on it. I was just concerned with the hull, I have drove it and it runs nice in the low 90's, but a lot changes doubling the HP.
Thanks

What size?

27

Go to the cats and tunnels forum on performanceboats. There is a thread right now with 27 daytona and a teague 900 claiming 124 right off the trailer. Your 1200 would make that thing cook!!!!

Not sure on the motor price but I would think the whole package is worth 70K+

I had a 27' Daytona with a 1200HP Keith Scroggin motor and we ran 137mph at 6,700 RPM

08 27 Daytona ICC. Teague 900. First pass off the trailer when new. It has run faster since then but I do not have a picture.

http://www.performanceboats.com/html...m/IMG_3288.JPG

Damn that's badass!

Think I could sell the Ilmore? And for how much?

How do they handle @ 125+?

The 27 is very stable at those speeds. You do need to watch the water for side rollers but you need to do that in every boat. My 22 Daytona ICC has run 127 and it is also super stable. That is my buddys boat in the picture. I can out drag race him easily but when the water gets rough, he is gone. Are you going to do your own wrenching? I have someone close to you who might be a buyer on the Illmore and could do the complete transformation. He is a Eliminator dealer and very experienced in the high performance side.
Give me a call 903-738-2007 Mitch
Here is a pic of my 22 speedo and a video of the speed on my 100mph speedo. I think mine is the fastest new 22 that has been built.

http://www.performanceboats.com/html...m/DSC01083.JPG

The video of acceleration on the 100mph speedo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqfY5Z2WBWo


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I own Glen Harbor Marina, and will do my own work. I may want to sell the Ilmore. I will give you a call.

$12-$15k for the imor complete with headers. Probably not the answer you want to hear but that is what the last two here in So Cal have sold for. they had about 120 hours on each motor.

I am most likely better off keeping the motor and seeing what happens with the economy. I might be better off selling the motor locally and doing the install. I am trying to justify buying another toy and trying to sell off the parts to make it work with little out of pocket. I should know better..

Just got a 27 with a 600 Merlin 1071 blower 1000HP, 1st owner ran 128MPH. I will soon know my self, still going over every thing. Way to much money not to know the boat inside and out.

Skydog

WHAT PROP AND GEARS YOU RUN?

http://www.eliminatorboat.com/files/104_pbm_june.pdf
Here is a article showing about that speed with same motor and a labbed 32. I think the boat had some people in it too. i wish the article went into a little more detail.
Does anyone have a cabin shot? Is there any room in there at all or just storage?

sounds like I have an issue or was lied to. I run a labbed 32 bravo prop on a imco shorty,"gears unknown" with what I was told a 500 efi converted to a 540 cu. in. with a procharger pushing 8lbs with 60 lb injectors, was told the motor was 960 HP. 5800 rpms gets me 98 MPH, 4 people on board with half full of fuel.

Teague 900, Teague platinum drive 1:36 gears, Teague Bravo 33.
The platinum drive comes as a shorty.

That sounds like about 600Hp, or the set up is very wrong. the above boat will do that speed full of people, beer, and fuel in the heat. It just takes it longer to get there.

maybe the speedo is off? the prop is a 32 and pulling it to almost 6000 rpm takes some HP????

I dont know my gear ratio but I can cruz at 38mph at 2700 rpm

Your speedo is off, or the prop is slipping a bit much. with 1.5 gears top speed @ 5800 should be around 103, Cruise @ 2700 should be near 48mph. With your setup I would guess 750hp. I worked on a 540 with AFR heads, a M3 9psi that made 840hp on the dyno. And that seems to work with the numbers you should be running at that rpm.

thanks for your input. motor is suppost to be 540 cu in it has a lumpy cam but idels at 900 ok, dart pro 1 heads , M1 procharger, 60 lbs injectors,msd , the mcu was done by arizona speed and marine. I am thinking I may be only doing 5000 rpm, I am going back to the lake saturday

5000 is a long way fom 6000 in your last post. Still things dont ad up. And the M1 is running pretty hard to make 750hp.
Take a good GPS with you, and a note pad to with you to write things down, (speed, rpm, drive ratio, prop, conditions, fuel and people on board).
Good luck. I should know if I am getting the 27 this weekend

Thanks Don. there is no marking on the drive for the ratio, is there a ez way to fiquer it out?

good luck with the 27!

I have had 2 - 21' daytonas a 25' daytona and now this 26'. If even at 0nly 100mph This one is the most stable.roomy and rides best. "damn sexy looking too"

Yes i too would like to know!!

Put it in gear mark the prop shaft, turn the motor over from TDC to TDC one revaluation. See how far the prop shaft turns. 240 degrees is a 1.5 ratio, 267 deg is a 1.35 ratio. If it comes out of gear hard don't force it, Hook up a remote starter and start it in gear then shift to neutral, this is best done on a hose.

ahhhh, so it is 1 revolution of the prop is ether 1.5 or 1.3 revolutions of the engine. I always thought is was the other way around.

Yep, Remember going to a 1.35 from a 1.5 is like running your car in a higher gear. Not lower as your thinking would have it. So the lower the gear ratio number the slower the engine will run all things being equal.It puts more load on the motor. The gear ratio from 1.5 to 1.35 is about the same as the 1.5 and 3" of pitch more. So a 1.35 with a 27p prop will run the same as a 1.5 with a 30p prop. All you need the ratio for is figuring slip if you care.
I need it because I dont want to run a 37p prop, it leaves me with not many options. So I went with 1.35 and a 34

just got back from the lake. I borrowed my buddies 28p labbed bravo. I was on the rev limiter at 5600 rpm and doing 101 on GPS. and no soot on the transom. Pulled like a angrey ape from 60 to 100. It was cool out maybe 65-70 degrees. So I would say the 32p is too much prop for havasu heat. I am guessing a 30p may be just right? Can a 32p be worked to a 30p? I did notice I am popping up through the top on occation, "to much advance" can it be set in the traditional way or is it all in the ecu?

You can lab a 32. Which is what I would do. Get all the numbers from it, RPM, Speed and call Brett @ BBlades

We need to start from scratch. You wrote you pulled 5800 with a 32 @ 98mph , now only 5600 with a 28 @ 101mph??? And the numbers with the 28 do not work unless you have a 1.35 gear. Run it again with the 34.

If you are popping thru the intake on occasion I would think its lean and the program needs to be tweaked.. You really need to set it up with an O2 sensor and Data log it. Then find someone who can adjust the program. Is it a Mefi (merc)system? Or aftermarket?

ok, ok I was wrong on my first post. I meant to say 4800 when I said 5800.
The ignition is a MSD box and distributor, but it also has the merc ECU. It was tweeked by az. speed and marine. I talked to them yesterday and they did say they set rev limit at 5600. so that makes sence. the boat with the 32p in the heat would only pull to about 4800 revs and the transom turned black. so running the 28 let it rev and eat that fuel." i am assuming"

And yes I would assume its a 1.36:1 gearset, by using the prop calculator.I cant get a wrench on the front of the motor to turn it" The docks where a zoo today so changing props was not gonna happen, I am going to go back next weekend early and hopfully have the cool air again and see what it does. I feel like I need to roll the timing back a bit. Or it may be like you said and have a lean spot. The plugs look good.

it is a labbed 32 by BB Blads.

I bought the boat with not much info other than what I was told, took it for a long test drive and it seemed real strong and didnt blow up. Reserched the dealer and Bob at eliminator said he was a strait shooter, so, I rolled the dice. Not ez these days to finance a cat without a dealer.

That makes since. The 32 labbed should have turned more. my guess is the 28 is just at the limit. That would put a 30 @ 5200-5300. and the labbed 32 should be near 5100 or so . Unless it was labbed to pull down the RPM's not increase them. But some good numbers with the 32 and Brett will get you where you need to be. You should check the base timing but popping thru the intake will not be fixed with timing.

Sorry I did the numbers on a stock 28. You still need to get some numbers on the 34 but may need a labbed 30. Talk to Brett

Thanks for the input Don, next saturday with my 32 , hopfully cool morning air and I will see where its at. I am guessin a 30p may be the ticket for all around. Be nice if the 32p could be worked down to a 30p. The boat came from Wisconsin, I am guessing they dont see many 110-115 degree days on the lake. So the labbed 32p may be great for that area.

Well so far guys with my 27' I went 115MPH with four peope right to the rev limit of 6gs with a 32" Bravo one Put a 34" Bravo one on and went 120MPH with one on bourd to the rev limit of 6gs looks like i need a 36" prop.

Skydog