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30outlaw 06-06-2018 06:30 AM

Cat vs. V
 
looking at a new/newer boat not necessarily eliminator, but thought is start here as they make both v and cat. looking for input want to be in the 30-35 ft range with twin outboards. how do the cats handle rough water vs the v's? looking at the active thunder 29 defiant vs m33r/32 thunder cat. open to others as well.... with a young family leaning to the AC, for a little more floor space and not to feel so poker run specific want to get to dinner fast for a mid week run,but yet grab the tube for the kids on the weekend.... and go...

SecondWind 06-06-2018 07:54 AM

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I vote cat. We have a little cat (26) and do the water sports. It will also get into triple digits when needed.

zx1421 06-06-2018 08:26 AM

Lots of variables, cats are great up to a point, and when it gets to ruff your done. I have a 26’ Daytona, on havasu, 99.9% of the time aok.
If your in the ocean, you need bigger than 35’ for a cat.
There are other things about them, I am ready to sell the Daytona to get a 28’-30’ deep V. Cats are all about speed, I’ve gotten old, I don’t need to or go 100+mph any more, my boat will, blast right past 110. I want to be able to step into a cabin, make a drink, reach my ****, ext....but that’s me.

MINK 06-06-2018 08:42 AM

You mentioned A/C which means a cabin - That will narrow things down. Eliminator cats in the 28-33 range do offer a nice cabin which you could add a/c although you don't see many with O/B power.. The 29 Active Thunder would be a excellent choice for the V hull offerings with the outboard and large cockpit & cabin for the size.

30outlaw 06-06-2018 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by MINK (Post 4630477)
You mentioned A/C which means a cabin - That will narrow things down. Eliminator cats in the 28-33 range do offer a nice cabin which you could add a/c although you don't see many with O/B power.. The 29 Active Thunder would be a excellent choice for the V hull offerings with the outboard and large cockpit & cabin for the size.

i was being lazy, ac active thunder for sure do not need A/C in wisconsin ... have a baja 30 outlaw now with 525's/xr/its/ssm , but its a 4-6 person boat and not for skiing or the tube, want to add a family fun boat i guess with friends and kids friends... wife wants a pontoon :( maybe if it had a pair of 400r's :D A center counsel is an option as well, i like big power fun when the time is right and its called for, but pull the throttles back and get someplace without taking all day.... 100% inland lakes but we do get a good 3ft chop when the wind picks up, of course do plan to boat those days but want the ride to be as best as possible when it happens. was mainly just curious as i have no cat knowledge, 30ft v 30 ft cat what is going to handle a rough day the best/better

MINK 06-06-2018 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by 30outlaw (Post 4630478)
i was being lazy, ac active thunder for sure do not need A/C in wisconsin ... have a baja 30 outlaw now with 525's/xr/its/ssm , but its a 4-6 person boat and not for skiing or the tube, want to add a family fun boat i guess with friends and kids friends... wife wants a pontoon :( maybe if it had a pair of 400r's :D A center counsel is an option as well, i like big power fun when the time is right and its called for, but pull the throttles back and get someplace without taking all day.... 100% inland lakes but we do get a good 3ft chop when the wind picks up, of course do plan to boat those days but want the ride to be as best as possible when it happens. was mainly just curious as i have no cat knowledge, 30ft v 30 ft cat what is going to handle a rough day the best/better

Makes sense...then Eliminator or Nordic walk through cat or deck boat would be the ticket.

Take a look at this one.
2014 Nordic Deckboat powerboat for sale in Arizona

SecondWind 06-06-2018 09:05 AM

Up to 2 footers cat will ride better than V. I won’t attempt to get on plane in 3 footers, can’t keep the prop in the water.

SecondWind 06-06-2018 09:10 AM

Also wake on a 30ft cat will be half the size of 30ft V at 30mph. Big deal for skiers.

zx1421 06-06-2018 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by 30outlaw (Post 4630478)
i was being lazy, ac active thunder for sure do not need A/C in wisconsin ... have a baja 30 outlaw now with 525's/xr/its/ssm , but its a 4-6 person boat and not for skiing or the tube, want to add a family fun boat i guess with friends and kids friends... wife wants a pontoon :( maybe if it had a pair of 400r's :D A center counsel is an option as well, i like big power fun when the time is right and its called for, but pull the throttles back and get someplace without taking all day.... 100% inland lakes but we do get a good 3ft chop when the wind picks up, of course do plan to boat those days but want the ride to be as best as possible when it happens. was mainly just curious as i have no cat knowledge, 30ft v 30 ft cat what is going to handle a rough day the best/better

you got the boat I want, lol, we are going opposite directions, mine is just a little to small for you, but has big power

Baja Rooster 06-06-2018 12:04 PM

If you’re talking about family, tubing, wakeboarding, etc. it seems the V would be the stronger choice.

rak rua 06-06-2018 07:26 PM

My understanding, the down side of cats is when it's rough, you can't run them back home at 30 something like a Vee. You have to run them faster to get the air flow through the tunnel and create the pressure and lift. That means higher speed and a bumpy ride. Sounds fun but could get annoying whereas a Vee hull, you can keep going on a slower planing speed and use the hull shape to cut the waves.

Depends where you boat of course. I've been considering a cat myself but it's pretty rough here and I'm not keen on blasting over 4+ footers at 70, I'd rather ride them out gracefully at 30!

RR




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SS496 06-12-2018 10:51 AM

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if you see this one out on Lake Winnebago stop by and say hi. I try to get out each weekend I can. The pic is from Sunset Supper Club in Fondy. Id be more than happy to take you for a ride....it is 31'

SS496 06-12-2018 10:55 AM

We may have tied up together before (I remember a 30' Baja) at the Butte Des Mortes Party last August......here is the jet boat I run around in on calm dayshttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3fbc17b9b8.jpg

30outlaw 06-12-2018 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by SS496 (Post 4631599)
We may have tied up together before (I remember a 30' Baja) at the Butte Des Mortes Party last August......here is the jet boat I run around in on calm dayshttps://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3fbc17b9b8.jpg


cant say i recall either boat, but it’s a possibility, https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...09ee2d0c5.jpeg

SS496 06-12-2018 12:43 PM

Nope....it was a white/black/red 30' baja..

Offer still stands. Good luck with whatever you choose.

sunbather1969 04-30-2019 10:42 PM

outlaw
 
if that outlaw wont do what you need you need two boats, that 30' outlaw kicks butt in the ruff


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