24' 1975 Hull on EBAY
 

Saw this on EBAY.

Great boats in my book.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...493101455&rd=1

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HMMMMMMM,

Not bad for the $$$, I'll be watching this!!!!

Says it is set up for TRS, what would it take to put a Bravo on, do I have to redo the transom???

Would like to build a Killer Small Block/Bravo comb.

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Rick, I was thinking of you when I saw this.

I wouldn't worry about the conversion.
You could do a Konrad and not fuss w/ the hole.

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Konrad would be a good idea for a BB, I am looking to do something a little different, and do a big small block. OK, I guess I could do a Big Block/TRS, or Konrad Combo. Have to wait and see what happens. I e-mailed him questioning rot etc. and asked for more pics.

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rchevelle71 I think IMCO makes a Box that converts a TRS cutout to a BRAVO pattern. Think I read this somewhere. The lines of these are killer.

Good Luck

E.S.

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Thanks,

I'll check into it. This would be freakin' AWESOME if I can get this thing, and get back to work soon, then build this PIG over the winter. I know my OSO buddies will walk me thru getting whatever I need to make a KILLER boat out of this thing, and then help me run it next Summer. I can do any glass, and paint work myself, and have assembled an engine or 2 in the past. I already have an Aluminum trailer that will fit it, so that is not a probblem, just need to get rid of the boat that is sitting on the trailer, but I have a check on the way for that, IF its not another scam deal.

Rick

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That's like the very first offshore boat I ever rode in.

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With any Luck, it'll be the very first offshore boat I've ever owned!!!

Whaddaya think Cuda....... Surface drive, and yella paint?????

Just Joking of course.

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Cool. Good luck with the sell of your present boat. This Excalibur would be worth the effort to restore. Does he have the title? If this guy sends you more pics, try to post them.

E.S.

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Good call, I forgot to ask about title. Does anybody know the rules in PA, are there titles for boats this old??

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No titles until recently in PA. you may need some paperwork on previous registration though. Or numbers off the side.

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Thanks Mark, I have bought boats in PA before(Pocono's, Lake Wallenpaupac), but they were registered in NY, so had titles, I remember the guy saying something about if it were PA, it wouldnt have title.

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OK, Now I look at the pic, and it has DL #'s?? Deleware I assume??? Who Knows about all that??

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very fun boat.

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Just Once,

I am not sure if this is all going to work out, depends on condition, whether or not the check shows up for my boat, how high the bidding goes on this chunk of glass, how my job interview goes on Friday............etc.

I am still intersted in your boat in the spring, if things dont work out on this one.

Rick

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Rick, it would take forever and cost a fortune to get that boat to the water. You'd be miles ahead buying one that is water ready. It would be a great project, but only if you already had a boat you could take out while you're working on this one. You won't believe how much all the little stuff cost to get it in the water. Ask Jay.

I was trying to figure up the other day what it cost me to get the Minx in the water. I know that just to have the engine installed cost $2200, and that was with me having the engine complete and ready to drop in. Then there's always the issues of different wire harnesses, etc. It adds up quick. You can count on 2 or 3 grand just for some kind of cockpit interior.

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Cuda,

I hear ya, I have restored Chevelles in the past, I know how projects add up. I have another idea for this one. What does everyone think about an outboard or 2 on the back of it???

I can do all of the glasswork/Paint myself. I make wiring harnesses for a living, besides, there isnt all that much wiring to do. There are, and will be no amenities. Just whatever the outboard needs for wires, the guages, and a few lights to make it legal. Have you ever seen the dash on a 24 Pantera/single??? Bigtime simple.

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To any concerned: I know all about that boat. The Delaware reg numbers in the picture belong to me. The hull was cracked at the port stringer for at least 6 feet. It almost sank on me in the Delaware River 3 years ago. I made it back to the dock with water up to the spark plugs.

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:eek: :eek:

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Thanks for the warning David.......

Oh well, Back to the search!!!

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Pic #2 is the missing glass at the strake where the crack is on the inside of the hull, outboard of the port stringer. The deck and cockpit liner would need to be removed, as it is one piece, to remove the stringer and fix the crack. I could not see where the crack ended as it was under the cockpit sole, but estimated at 6 feet visible from about 1 foot forward of the transom.
If you note the deck hatches are missing in the eBay ad, it is because one was broken, and I could not find suitable replacements, without cutting the holes larger, so I removed both hatches, and put white Lexan covers over the holes with SS bolts and little SS trim rings. It looked pretty good, even close up.

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Scary!!!!!!!!!!

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In hindsight, I should have kept the boat and fixed it. I really did like the it. It would run about 70, and handled great. It definitely needed some TLC when I got it, as the prior owner had absolutely no clue about boats.

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Looks pretty good to me in that pic.

Question is, How did it crack???

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My theory, anyway, is that the hull was twisting, due to the rear seat being modified incorrectly, and losing the "bulkhead" effect at the front of the engine bay. The engine was mounted incorrectly also, which I didn't realize, as well as being loose on the port side. I found these issues when pulling it apart after the fact. I also discovered, after cutting up an identical hull, some poor manufacturing methods, as well. After looking at the construction methods used, I could see deficiencies in the lay-up, that could easily lead to fracture/failure in the composite structure. An example would be: At the strake, the roving was bent 90 degrees to one strand, and parallel to the other. This would make the structure strong one way, but weak the other, which is exactly where the failure occurred. Typically today's methods fill the strake, then lay-up over that, as well as a 45 degree angle across sharp corners (biaxial cloth). That eliminates the weak spot. Also the stringers were not profiled to the bottom, but just plain square boards that contact the hull with a small area (the corner). The glass lay-up over the stringers has a large air space between the square board and the angle of the hull.

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The power of OSO shows its strength again. Might still be a good project to fix, and yes all those little items do add up, but at least the history of the boat is out in the open now.

Good luck rchevelle71 on the job interview. As far as the boat, if its not meant to be then it aint meant to be. Allways have another one around the corner.

E.S.

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David, was it a different one that you started a project on? Did you ever finish it?

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The one pictured here almost sinking is the reason for the other project boat that I picked up from Sharkey. If I had gotten his boat first, and kept this one, instead of a different project boat altogether, it might have turned out different, as I would have had all the parts needed. But such is life. Then I got sick 3 years ago with the same problem that is still plaguing me today, and caused me such financial damage, I had to scrap the whole project. My family's survival must come first.

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Sorry to hear that David.

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mine is 4 yrs. newer and does not have holes in it. :D
sorry had to hi-jack this one. :drink:

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Just Once, if I could squeeze yours into my budget, I'd be on it.
I spoke to the person on the phone who was high bidder. He said he made offer to the seller, and was going to check it out. He did win the auction, so he bought the boat, in theory, anyway. He works at a marina in NY somewhere. Maybe he will fix it up. I wish him the best. He also said he had joined OSO shortly before the boat was up for sale. Someone in his area had turned him on to OSO. We'll see if he ever posts.

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Word of warning. I retored a '76 Excalibur 24. Light and fast with 470hp BBC and Bravo - actual 78-80mph, but built like a '76 jet boat. Stringers to small and no real bulkheads!! It started to come apart running in the chesapeake bay. I used up 14 gallons of epoxy resin beefing that thing up for serious water - real bulkheads and larger stringers etc (positive note: the hull and deck were glassed together at the factory) Too much work, never again. the late 70's boats I've seen looked like they were built a little better.

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David: if I could squeeze it into my budget I'd keep it. :D
HT27: yes the late 70's like mine are alot heavier. Slower, but solid. with about 470 h.p. my 79 would run 68-70. :cool: