Restoring Gelcoat -versus- Painting (?) Pro's & Con's
09-29-2011, 04:46 PM
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Glassdave,
Quick question if you don't mind..
Can you give me a "rough" price on re-Gel vs Paint on a a 24 V bottom hull only?
No real damage needing repair other than normal chips and dings over the years.
Not trying to hold you to a price, just trying to get a feel for the rough cost so I can budget for it.
Also when is the best time of the year for you to take on new projects? Hoping to have something done before next spring.
Thanks,
Dave
Quick question if you don't mind..
Can you give me a "rough" price on re-Gel vs Paint on a a 24 V bottom hull only?
No real damage needing repair other than normal chips and dings over the years.
Not trying to hold you to a price, just trying to get a feel for the rough cost so I can budget for it.
Also when is the best time of the year for you to take on new projects? Hoping to have something done before next spring.
Thanks,
Dave
09-29-2011, 05:14 PM
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Glassdave,
Quick question if you don't mind..
Can you give me a "rough" price on re-Gel vs Paint on a a 24 V bottom hull only?
No real damage needing repair other than normal chips and dings over the years.
Not trying to hold you to a price, just trying to get a feel for the rough cost so I can budget for it.
Also when is the best time of the year for you to take on new projects? Hoping to have something done before next spring.
Thanks,
Dave
Quick question if you don't mind..
Can you give me a "rough" price on re-Gel vs Paint on a a 24 V bottom hull only?
No real damage needing repair other than normal chips and dings over the years.
Not trying to hold you to a price, just trying to get a feel for the rough cost so I can budget for it.
Also when is the best time of the year for you to take on new projects? Hoping to have something done before next spring.
Thanks,
Dave
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09-30-2011, 07:54 AM
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nice stuff. Do you free tape or plotter cut? I picked up a 48 inch Graphtec a few years ago and do a mix so i can tailor to the shape of whatever I'm workin on . I do a lot of stuff in CorelDraw then scale it and kick it to my cutter. 
Damn Jimi . . . . . guess we kinda took over. We'll get back on track after we hear from ya
Damn Jimi . . . . . guess we kinda took over. We'll get back on track after we hear from ya
10-01-2011, 09:56 AM
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Im an experenced custom painter of 16 years and i have used base coat/ Clear coat on several boats. Its affordable and durable. It will not seperate if the boat is left in water for a extended time period. and it gives you the opportunity to do multi color designs without having a tape edge like enamel paints.
Anyways - I will dig deeper into what you have suggested and make the right decision i am sure.
thanks again
10-01-2011, 10:02 AM
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I emailed with Glass Dave a few months back asking about gel-coat restoration - I did not know he did acrylics too - looks like the best and cheaper way to go is paint - and i get a easy to clean finish with graphics - that suits me just fine.
10-01-2011, 10:06 AM
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no worries my man - I told Josh I always learn one hell-of-a-lot by reading all the posts
got some darn good photos of those ? Woodies ? outta the deal too - lol
10-01-2011, 11:23 AM
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do you keep the boat in the water full time? whats the longest its in for?
When the boats gelcoat finish has been compromised and has exceeded its useful life sometimes were left with no other choice but paint. Generally i try to preserve the running surface at all costs, no paint is good on the bottom of the boat. Its best to only paint from the hard chine up. In some cases if a boat is going to be kept in the water for long periods i have designed graphics packages that leave gelcoat on the sides of the boat up to the start of the bottom edge of the graphics. The paint used on most boats these days is high solids acrylic urethane, not acrylic enamels. For solid colors i use PPG's single stage Concept DCC and for base/clear graphics i use PPG's Deltron 2000 DBC base with DCU 2021 clear.
You also have the option to re gelcoat the entire boat although the process can be very costly.
When the boats gelcoat finish has been compromised and has exceeded its useful life sometimes were left with no other choice but paint. Generally i try to preserve the running surface at all costs, no paint is good on the bottom of the boat. Its best to only paint from the hard chine up. In some cases if a boat is going to be kept in the water for long periods i have designed graphics packages that leave gelcoat on the sides of the boat up to the start of the bottom edge of the graphics. The paint used on most boats these days is high solids acrylic urethane, not acrylic enamels. For solid colors i use PPG's single stage Concept DCC and for base/clear graphics i use PPG's Deltron 2000 DBC base with DCU 2021 clear.
You also have the option to re gelcoat the entire boat although the process can be very costly.
An articulate response Dave - i contacted you months ago asking for you to come out of town to gel-coat my boat - I really had no idea how expensive it would be from the other discussion you had about gel-coat restoration
I am definitely paint
seems your the most popular guy on the block and I think that you breaking away from what you said your booked for motnhs - so that's really not an option.
This boat has been out of the water for at least 2 years that i am aware of
Got a small amount of hull damage like one 3 inch x 1/2 inch gouge - not too deep - and other smaller chips here and there
If you think i can poor boy it and have the clear coat shot when the boat gets to Thailand - there are cheap labor painters that shoot some awesome graphics there
I can resource them to get-r-done
thanks again for the post and info
Jimi
10-03-2011, 12:22 PM
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No problem Jimi, i am always willing to lend advice. Good luck with the project and let me know if you need any info on materials and such. Thank you
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