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Re: What exhaust for 311?
Originally Posted by jaybird
He did weld those shut. There was no need for them, and they were leaking from the previous owner's install. Now EMI only sells them w/o water passages, most likely due to all the leaks their customers have experienced.
Are you going to loose your Merc HP robbers :)? If yours are original I'd get rid of them now before they let go and grenade a motor...not worth it, or did you replace those already? |
Re: What exhaust for 311?
Originally Posted by CMG
Haven't done yet but am becoming all too aware of what could happen. like a lot of us, my business partner (the Mrs) isn't so excited about spending $4k. I'm working on her.
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Re: What exhaust for 311?
Same thing happened to me on my 242. Took it out once too often and that was that. Rule of thumb: if you can see ANY water leakage on the outside, you can bet it's leaking on the inside. That's why I changed the exhaust on Outlaw when I did. It had just started showing a leak on the outside where the risers bolted to the manifolds. Never even started it once I noticed that. Motors had run find last time I shut'em off and wasnt' about to take the chance.
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Re: What exhaust for 311?
Same story here, guys. Actually had those NICE plastic water inlet fittings/drains on my Merc manifolds and they were leaking and allowing water to run down on top of the manifold bolts. Bolt heads literally crumbled when I put a socket on them. Decided if I was going to pull the motors to get manifolds off I would go ahead and freshen ( :rolleyes: ) them up at the same time. Upon teardown, one set of heads completely ruined and the others already had the beginnings of water damage. Needless to say the merc anchors went overboard (along with 300+ lbs) and in came the EMI's. Of course, with new EMI's I couldn't just "freshen" the motors. :D :D :D
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Re: What exhaust for 311?
I am going with the EMI Thunders. CMI wants almost 4000$ per motor to make them fit right. Not worth it to me. I'm will need that money for drives if they dont hold up. Bolt up and forget about 'em factor is huge in my book too. Thanks for all the info.
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Re: What exhaust for 311?
Croozin2, what exactly do you have under the hatch? What speed are you getting?
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Re: What exhaust for 311?
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Originally Posted by Croozin2
My EMI's worked fine but they are close. I got the 3" extended SS risers. One side clears fine but the other side barely touches the mirrorplex under the hatch on one riser. Made a small dimple in the mirrorplex but no one sees it but me (my wife says I'm anal - imagine that! :rolleyes: ) If my boat doesn't sell I'm going your route next year Outlaw. Extreme Marine platform and some SS tips. :D
Looks like you had the same issue with the oil drain lines that are supposed to be able to be pulled out the bilge drain but ends too big to fit. I put mine in just about the same place. Are those quick connects on the end?? |
Re: What exhaust for 311?
Originally Posted by CMG
Jay, did Gordon have to weld water passages shut in your risers??
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Re: What exhaust for 311?
Originally Posted by DustinM
Croozin2, what exactly do you have under the hatch? What speed are you getting?
.030 over, 9.5:1cr, 461ci, stock crank & rods 990 GM heads lightly massaged, Ferrea Valves, 2.30 - 1.88, Crane Gold Rockers Cam by Cam Motion, Single Pattern Hyd, 236 @ .050, .561 lift EMI Thunder Exhaust w/stainless 3" extended risers Crane Hi-6 Marine Ignition w/stock TB-IV dist Stainless x-overs and t-stat housings Merc/GM Dual Plane Aluminum Intake modified Q-Jets (Yeah, I know) w/1" open spacer Didn't dyno my particular motors but this package has netted anywhere from 498 to 512hp on previous builds. Diamond Engines in Hammond Louisiana did all of the bottom end work. I used to drag race in super stock with the guy 15-20 years ago and he builds some strong motors. After much work with the carbs (Q-jets are really finicky w/ low vacuum signal) the boat increased from 63mph with the stock 454 mags to 72mph and blowing right through these 23" mirages (5500+ rpm). It really accelerates, though. I'm figuring with some 25" Mirages or 24 Bravos or Q-IVs I should see ~75. |
Re: What exhaust for 311?
Originally Posted by CMG
Croozin, nice lookin motors - 1st time I have seen the 454mag flat hat filters actually look good.
Looks like you had the same issue with the oil drain lines that are supposed to be able to be pulled out the bilge drain but ends too big to fit. I put mine in just about the same place. Are those quick connects on the end?? Thanks for the compliment on the motors. I always like to be a little different so I thought the silver powder coated manifolds topped off with the original flame arresters and covers looked nice (makes people wonder just how stock/modified it really is, too!). :D |
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