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axapowell 04-24-2005 09:31 AM

Looking and Selling
 
With the help of all the Formula owners on this fourm, would like to find a 1999-2002 353 Fastech in good condition with a trailer. Would consider all motor options. Have looked at a few in NJ and was very disapointed with what I saw for the price offered. It seems that the owners of these boats just didn't give a crap about care to the finish or interior of their boats.

On the other note, I didn't want to step on the thread by Formula 271 and figured I'd start another thread in case he has already found his next boat. As Thirdbird said, my 303 is listed in the classified section at a reasonable price. Pass it along if you all would. Thanks in advance!

Dave

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-5248.html

axapowell 04-25-2005 07:07 PM

Re: Looking and Selling
 
Wow...No help yet? Not like the Formula forum I know?


Anyone? Bueller?

formula271 04-25-2005 10:54 PM

Re: Looking and Selling
 
axapowell,
I'm still looking for a 353 and will be listing my 271 as soon as I can take some pics. I haven't found any in New York to look at except for some salt water boats. :(

Rippem 04-26-2005 08:27 AM

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there's a couple of FW boats in NY. 120K range though.

CObarry 04-26-2005 09:29 AM

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Here's a start...

Formula 353 boats for sale

Length Boats Year Price (US$) Codes Location
35' Formula 35 FASTECH 2000 105,035 P U T FG Green Brook, NJ
35' Formula 353 Fas Tech 2004 189,995 P U T G FG Austin, TX
35' Formula 353 Fas Tech 2003 139,995 P U T G FG Austin, TX
35' Formula 353 Fas Tech 1998 127,500 P U T G FG Lake of the Ozarks, MO
35' Formula 353 Fast Tech 2001 129,000 P U T G FG Newport Beach, CA
35' Formula 353 Fast Tech 1999 109,000 P U T G CP Fort Lauderdale, FL
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2005 264,995 P N T G FG Freeport, NY
35' Formula 353 FASTech 2005 -- P N T G FG Lake Ozark, MO
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2005 -- P N T G FG Call for location, WI
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2004 229,900 P U T G FG Newport Beach, CA
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2002 179,900 P U T G FG Call for Location, NY
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2001 189,900 P U T G FG Northfield, USA
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2000 139,900 P U T G FG NY, USA
35' Formula 353 Fastech 2000 134,995 P U T G FG Call for location, WI
35' Formula 353 Fastech 1999 129,900 P U T G FG Call for location, WI
35' Formula 353 Fastech 1999 124,900 P U T G FG Call for location, WI
35' Formula 353 Fastech 1999 119,900 P U T G FG Central, NJ
35' Formula 353 FASTECH 1999 109,995 P U T G FG Brick, NJ
35' Formula 353 Fastech 1999 99,900 P U T G FG St. Petersburg, FL
35' Formula 353 Fastech 1998 119,990 P U T G FG Call For Location, TX

Rippem 04-26-2005 09:41 AM

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I recognize a few of those. :D as having been for sale two years ago when I was looking. Weed out the price crackheads, the junk, and the boats that aren't really "for sale"...there's 5 or 6 possibilities there. :p

wantsa311 04-26-2005 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CObarry
Length Boats Year Price (US$) Codes Location
35' Formula 353 Fastech 1998 119,990 P U T G FG Call For Location, TX

Um ... What's "PUTGFG" ??? :confused::confused::confused:

Rippem 04-26-2005 08:45 PM

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codes: twin, gas, fiberglass, used...ect.

axapowell 04-26-2005 11:18 PM

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Been to NJ...They are all in very poor condition or bottom painted , called on the one in Buffalo..sold, FL salt water not too good but may check the one on OSO w/trailer, WI Green bay 1 of three sold, the other has had a motor swap and over priced...


The search continues.


Thanks for the help

Dave

Formula Outlaw 04-27-2005 07:00 AM

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Dave, just my two cents but I wouldn't rule a boat out just because it has been "used" in salt water. As long as it hasn't been "STORED" in salt water. If some is as finnicky as me the boat should be in decent shape. I keep mine on a trailer at my home, and flush each motor for fifteen minutes after each use, even if it's two oclock in the morning. Luckily my neighbors don't seem to mind. :D

One thing I would do though on a salt water boat, is to yank a riser off a manifold and inspect the interior. That will tell you what the rest of the inside of the motor probably looks like. Just a thought. Russ

cuda 04-27-2005 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Formula Outlaw

One thing I would do though on a salt water boat, is to yank a riser off a manifold and inspect the interior. Russ

I usually just open the cabin door to inspect the interior. :)

axapowell 04-27-2005 08:00 AM

Re: Looking and Selling
 
Thanks for the input!! Good advice.

Thanks again

Dave

ThirdBird 04-27-2005 11:35 AM

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Just say no to salt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:drink:




Unless we're having margaritas in the boathouse.

Rippem 04-27-2005 11:58 AM

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get your mind off cocktails and onto putting that boat back together. :rolleyes: :drink:

30 days...30 days...'till kickoff, weather permitting of course. :D

formula271 04-27-2005 12:36 PM

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ThirdBird,
You're not goofing off at work again are you? Oh yeah, you're probably taking a much deserved break, that's it. Breaks over, back to work. :D

CObarry 04-27-2005 05:00 PM

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You said 99-> 353, but here's a '98 with pro chargers on 502's...Formula 353

I'd be happy to check it out next time I'm there if you're interested.

formula271 04-27-2005 05:13 PM

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CObarry,
I think that boat was for sale there last year. Please check it out and let us know how she looks.

toolman 04-27-2005 05:53 PM

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Dave,

Good luck in your search for a new ride. Have you considered a 382 instead of a 353? Might as well go alot bigger instead of a little bigger. :D (Ask C-spray how nice a 382 is)

As you know I have a 1994 303, same graphics as yours and I love it. However, it just doesn't fit our family's needs right now. So it, too is also for sale.

If I can look at anything in NJ for you, please let me know.

Dave W.

axapowell 04-27-2005 06:00 PM

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Thanks for the help guys..

Toolman, I drove a 382 last year (2002) w/HP 500's Gen, and air...the works with a trailer for $140k a steal...I thought. Needed a VERY good detail and more POWER. Thought I was driving my Caddie!

I can say that tihis is alot harder then I thought!

Thanks again all!

Dave

Rippem 04-27-2005 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by axapowell
I drove a 382 last year...

...needed more POWER.


I can say that this is alot harder then I thought!

You want a 353 Dave...it's a real 5' more boat, but still fun. :D

I am very pleased with mine. :cool:

It's not as easy to find the right one to buy as some think it is! I lucked out and was in the right place at the right time. I still have 3+ years of warranty left!

LMCSWEET 04-27-2005 06:55 PM

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Dave,
why stop at a 382, I got a 2000 419 for sale with (3) 585 lingenfelters. She will run 92+ all day. It only has 130 hours on it, fresh water boat, boat house kept. Only $165,000. New Cat will be ready July 1, and I need the room.

Rippem 04-27-2005 06:59 PM

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my guess is 120+ GPH WOT. :eek:

LMCSWEET 04-27-2005 07:03 PM

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Bad habits are hard to break

ThirdBird 04-29-2005 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Troutly
At least yours did not come apart :eek:

What is that in reference to Troutly? I sensed a little bit of a sour note there.

Rippem 04-29-2005 08:17 PM

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there was a 41' that.... for no good reason...

ThirdBird 04-30-2005 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rippem
there was a 41' that.... for no good reason...

Well,,,,,,,, I'm either woefully uninformed or I just don't get it.

Rippem 04-30-2005 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rippem
there was a 41' that.... for no good reason...

broke apart. An early stepped bottom one I believe.

dyno 04-30-2005 06:36 AM

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wrinkelface was talking about selling his its AUSOME! 525's, boxes, the works.....

axapowell 04-30-2005 08:20 AM

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Is that the 2003?

ThirdBird 04-30-2005 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rippem
broke apart. An early stepped bottom one I believe.

:eek: :eek:

Never heard about that. Fluke? Any others?

Rippem 04-30-2005 02:08 PM

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only one I ever heard of. I only vaguely remember the story.

Trout-man seems to know.

Rippem 04-30-2005 07:45 PM

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wow, pretty intensive analysis going on there. Some of those pics tell a less than stellar QC story. The boat obviously split at the step, and/or pulled the hull/deck joint, probably simultaneously from structure loading.

How much of the damage shown was the result of salvage?

I'll search, but do you know the thread with the tidbits spoken?

t500hps 04-30-2005 08:10 PM

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NOW I'VE GOTTA KNOW WHAT THAT'S ALL ABOUT!!!!! WTF HAPPENED???
Would the owner PLEASE explain.
Russ C.

ThirdBird 04-30-2005 08:36 PM

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Man,, That is one nasty looking hulk. There's hardly a section on it that isn't broken, cracked, torn or bent.

Hope everyone was OK, wouldn't surprise me if they weren't.

Don't much like how that deck-to-hull joint split wide open. I've always thought the glass would give before the joint. Gotta wonder if that joint was glued, doesn't look it.

Rippem 04-30-2005 08:49 PM

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the blue chit is plexus I believe. Properly set, stronger than the parts it mates. In a couple of pics you can see 'glass stuck to it (as in the glass ripped apart before the plexus joint failed)...but in most pics the glass appears to have come off the plexus clean...not good

Notice the infrequent and varying (wide) distances between screws through the hull/deck joint, and the pointed out minimum of backer plates. :eek:

I'm sure alot was learned from the failure analysis. I wonder if Formula sponsored this or the litigating laywers?

Or both seperately and independently?

ThirdBird 04-30-2005 08:54 PM

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I sure don't think Formula would have plastered those pics all over the web!!!!!!!!

Rippem 04-30-2005 09:36 PM

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No, but you can be sure they did their own thorough investigation. In any case they would have to have access to the boat and the "sawed out" evidence of structural failure.

You would think they would want it first.

My bet is they had somebody on the scene "quick like a bunny".

ThirdBird 05-01-2005 08:04 AM

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I wonder if Formula accepted responsibility for this. Wonder if they gave the guy a new boat. That one sure wasn't repairable and who'd want it after it was repaired anyway?

However, I can't believe this boat just "came apart". I know you probably used that phrase in general terms, right Trout?

Looks like the thing barrel-rolled to me. Of course, like Rip said, much of the damage we see may have been from salvage opertations.

ThirdBird 05-01-2005 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Troutly
I will PM the original owner and tell him about this thread. If he wants to comment he will :)


Good deal Troutly. Love to hear the real story. Formulas are not known for coming apart.

LMCSWEET 05-02-2005 06:40 PM

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Wow, I assure you my 419 looks nothing like that. I hope all on board were ok. Did they hit something, or what. My 419 is an absolute crusher, I love it. But it is 4 sale to make room for a new Skater.


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