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blown formula 06-18-2007 05:36 PM

Why?? Just tire kickers, no buyers!!
 
I have started to advertise my 1997 312 Fastech for sale @59,900....Yacht trader, bargain Posts, etc..... large picture ads too.
it only has 224 hrs total & is almost pristine, but everybody wants pictures sent to them but that's the end of it!! Surely the price is not out of line??? It even includes a triple axle trailer w/elec-hydraulic brakes.

What's up?? Got any ideas??

chuck21401 06-18-2007 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by blown formula (Post 2167426)

What's up?? Got any ideas??

The guy that bought my 280SS with twin V6s just sold his performance boat because of the price of gas. He wanted something that costs less to run.

Full Force 06-18-2007 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by blown formula (Post 2167426)
I have started to advertise my 1997 312 Fastech for sale @59,900....Yacht trader, bargain Posts, etc..... large picture ads too.
it only has 224 hrs total & is almost pristine, but everybody wants pictures sent to them but that's the end of it!! Surely the price is not out of line??? It even includes a triple axle trailer w/elec-hydraulic brakes.

What's up?? Got any ideas??

Bad sellers market, my friends 311 has been on the market for 2 yrs now, buyers market yes, sellers no.

jmeng 06-18-2007 06:57 PM

If it has blowers (going by your screen name) that scares away a lot of buyers.

Jupiter Sunsation 06-18-2007 08:12 PM

It is also a 10 year old mass produced boat with major incentives for buyers to buy new ones (low interest/ long warranties). Hang in there, there is an azz for every seat.

chuck21401 06-18-2007 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2167665)
mass produced boat

It's not like it's a Bayliner! ;)

PWRQWST 06-18-2007 09:30 PM

The future is not so bright, I able to take off my shades:D

Buyers market, good luck.



Rich.

blown formula 06-18-2007 09:31 PM

Bayliner NOT!! The bolsters & floor alone cost over 10% of the asking price! I guess a lot of people don;t realize the quality of a Formula as compared to many/most mass produced boats..... I do have Prochargers but only at 3# boost. I am going to remove them though for that very reason. Just gotta keep after it I guess.:rolleyes:

Jupiter Sunsation 06-18-2007 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by chuck21401 (Post 2167802)
It's not like it's a Bayliner! ;)

I didn't mean it like that, just that there are a lot of them out there to choose from.

BlownFormula, people don't look at resale value based on sum of parts value unless the boat is salvage. They look at what the bank will loan on it/ what others are selling for. 10 year old bolsters are probably not worth much in the open market since they would need new vinyl anyway to match someone's boat.

Hang tight, it will sell. Do you have it advertised here on OSO?

PhantomChaos 06-19-2007 12:52 AM

Is this it?


http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/6/5/87750065.htm

ThirdBird 06-19-2007 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by blown formula (Post 2167836)
Bayliner NOT!! The bolsters & floor alone cost over 10% of the asking price! I guess a lot of people don;t realize the quality of a Formula as compared to many/most mass produced boats..... I do have Prochargers but only at 3# boost. I am going to remove them though for that very reason. Just gotta keep after it I guess.:rolleyes:

Hold the Phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I may have a buyer for you. Leave the prochargers on it, he'd be interested in them. He's looking at a 312 as we speak. I'll get a hold of him.

Call me 315-349-7572 days
Dave

Sea-Dated 06-19-2007 07:45 AM

It took me 8 months to sell my Fountain and ending up giving it away to move it. When the right person came along it was less than a week from initial contact to done deal. the right one will come along, just have to be patient. Good luck.

TexomaPowerboater 06-19-2007 08:13 AM

I think a lot of people don't care for the black dash.

FormulaAvalanche 06-19-2007 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by blown formula (Post 2167836)
Bayliner NOT!! The bolsters & floor alone cost over 10% of the asking price! I guess a lot of people don;t realize the quality of a Formula as compared to many/most mass produced boats..... I do have Prochargers but only at 3# boost. I am going to remove them though for that very reason. Just gotta keep after it I guess.:rolleyes:

Man i agree with you on the build quality, I have gone through their factory, met the president ect.. and they have high expectations when it comes to quality control.. I was very impressed to the attention to detail on every aspect of the build process. Good luck on the sale.

Splitdecision271 06-19-2007 12:38 PM

True Formula lovers won't care about the Black dash. The quality is there that's what really matters. On the other hand the blown merc's are probably the reason it's not going. Being in the market myself, worked motors are a red flag unless I personally know that they were properly maintained and maintenced. Two often you hear stories about buying a boat and then having ot replace the motor 10 hours later. Also gas prices being above $3 isn't helping your situation any either. Be patient, it will go eventually.

blown formula 06-19-2007 04:58 PM

Phantom,
No that is not my boat.
Mine only has 224 hrs on it. It is maintained by a Merc mechanic locally. It has a new full cover, cockpit cover & Bimini top also. The upholstery is near perfect -no tears or seperations. The bolsters look new. I did install the new white switches in the seats- they look a lot better than the black ones. There is a Eagle GPS with tracking that is two years old, component stereo w/12" woofer, am/fm stereo w/amps. The pump out head still has the factory seal on it. The pressurized water system has never even had water in it! ac/dc refridge works great and has shore power too. K-planes, drive showers, every Formula option avail at that time. Paint & gelcoat is in great shape. Always stored inside or on a covered lift. It does need docking light bulbs replaced. I never use them so I did not replace them. Everthing else works great. The sunpad is also perfect- no blemishes at all. Two new batteries also. Triple axle trailer w/ 12,000# Kodiak discs on two axles (new bearings & races also). Electric/hydraulic actuator w/new Predator pump. If it wasn't for my Sonic I would keep it. But something has to go. Oh yes, this is a freshwater only boat- Arizona, Oklahoma & LOTO only. I am the second owner.

I hope something turns up soon.

QWKRN U 06-20-2007 07:45 PM

Its because of its age and the price is a lil high compared to newer 312's on the market. I looked for quite some time for the right 312 but ended up getting another Eliminator due to the eliminator being newer and getting better interest rates.

blown formula 06-20-2007 10:36 PM

I see another 312 on the OSO ads for the same price, same year, no hours are quoted. Is that because there are a lot of them?? Who knows! Mine has VERY low hours which should add to it's value & more equipment & options.

Bottomline is, you have to start somewhere & negotiate from there. I am negotiable!! Heck, I'll even deliver the boat as part of a deal. Just gonna keep trying, but I won't give it away either!

LV 06-21-2007 06:29 AM

Paint the dash white an throw some gaffrig's in it and I bet it moves.

PhantomChaos 06-21-2007 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by blown formula (Post 2169030)
Phantom,
No that is not my boat.
Mine only has 224 hrs on it.

I was just trying to find your boat ad. I had the same boat and it took some time to sell. I sold mine for $60K in 2002 with stock motors (never supercharged), very clean, low hours, awesome Sony Xplode stereo install, new batteries, cockpit and full cover, drive showers, all new factory white dash plates with all new formula red-line gauges and switches.....and a never used porta potty.

If you really want to sell, I suggest you drop the price about 2-3K every 1-2 weeks until it sells. Of course, you should list it on OSO too!

blown formula 06-21-2007 09:51 AM

Here is the ad on TRADERONLINE

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/6/89235056.htm

I will pay travel expense & deliver the boat as part of a deal also........

chuck21401 06-21-2007 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos (Post 2171470)
If you really want to sell, I suggest you drop the price about 2-3K every 1-2 weeks until it sells.

Dropping the price is always painful but when looking for boats I have to admit I usually click on the least expensive boats first :) There is a 97 312 near me for sale in the high 30s with close to 1000 hours. While the boat may be tired I would still ask about it out of curiosity and price if I was in the market.

If you haven't done so already, set up a photobucket account (or other photo hosting services) with detailed high quality pictures. I took pictures of everything including the instruments at different speeds/RPMs. It's interesting what some people notice and what is important to them (clean bilge, shiney gelcoat, etc. etc.)

I sold my boat through boattraderonline...after the person contacted me by email I sent them to the photobucket site. Pictures help greatly with long distance sales and selling the boat to a national market increases your chances of selling the boat.

You might also write up a spec sheet detailing options and maintenance done to the boat. Not everyone wants this amount of detail but if you have it available it help assure buyers that you have a well maintained boat with nothing to hide. I also made a copy of a recent survey available. Have this info available electronically also saves you time so that you don't have answer the same questions over and over. The forumula website has copies of the old brochures to help you create a list of standard and optional features on your boat.

You might also consider listing the boat on EBAY. There are some kooks on EBAY but it will get your boat more exposure...and it only takes one buyer. :)

Good luck with the sale.

PhantomChaos 06-26-2007 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by blown formula (Post 2171516)
Here is the ad on TRADERONLINE

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/5/6/89235056.htm

I will pay travel expense & deliver the boat as part of a deal also........



Sorry.....seems a little pricey. Just judging by what I got for my 312 in CA.....and CA boats are sold for more out here.

See pics on this thread.........


http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...4&d=1182834899


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