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turboz67 07-23-2008 06:28 PM

with scorpions
 
how can a 292 with scorpions run at 78 to 80mph when the motors are rated 350hp. the 6.2's are rated at 320hp and the boat only does 69 to 70. there is no way that 30hp can make up a difference like that.

Magicfloat 07-23-2008 06:53 PM

Ratings are just that,ratings. The Scorpions were killer motors. We probrably sold as many or more 292/Scorpians as any Formula dealer and all of them GPS'd 78-80. These were great motors ,rated at 350, but actually way more. If you ever get a chance to run one,you might change your opinion. I actually had one that we did a lot of prop testing with,got GPS readings of 81 several times.Believe me or not,but they were strong during their day. High octane fuel and engine price killed them. Blue paint is expensive,folks were hesitant to pay that much for a small block.

turboz67 07-23-2008 07:32 PM

when were the engines discontinued. also, why didn't formula provide another combo to get the 292 more speed. I have an 06, i put stainless marine exhaust and i don't thoink i gained any top end. should i install the latham steering?

Magicfloat 07-23-2008 08:16 PM

Don't remember exactly,maybe 04? Formula had nowhere to go,292 is a small block boat,so the 320's were all they could offer

turboz67 07-23-2008 08:35 PM

mercury is now offering a motorcallrd the black scorpion. do you know anything about this motor, it is on there web site.

Magicfloat 07-23-2008 08:55 PM

Inboard ski boat motor.Not stern drive

pokerrunboats 07-23-2008 10:08 PM

There is now a stroker scorpion 383 cubic inch available from Mercury rated 400 HP - Sterndrive - from Mercuy Remanufactoring
The engine comes with CMI `s from factory
Merc call it
Stroker 383 Scorpion Venomized

turboz67 07-24-2008 07:17 PM

does mercury have the engine on the website

Phazar454Mag 07-25-2008 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by turboz67 (Post 2634187)
does mercury have the engine on the website

Yes they do: http://sites.mercurymarine.com/pls/p...PION879310.PDF

but I think it is a ski engine.

Phazar454Mag 07-25-2008 12:58 AM

I have talked with other 292 with Scorpion engine owners and depending on props they have a top speed of 76-79 MPH.

Trueser 07-25-2008 06:13 AM

I have a 28ZX with scorpions and they run great. 79 on GPS so far. What props were they running on the 292's? And what way did they spin.

Thanks

Phazar454Mag 07-25-2008 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Trueser (Post 2634433)
I have a 28ZX with scorpions and they run great. 79 on GPS so far. What props were they running on the 292's? And what way did they spin.

Thanks

The 76 MPH is with 29" labbed Bravo One props.
Higher speeds with 30" labbed Bravo One props.
I think even 32" Bravo have been used but I am not sure ?
Props are spinning out.
Gear ratio 1.65:1

Personally I run std. 28" Bravo One props so I have great acceleration but lower top speed (72-75 MPH). I am considering trying higher pitch props, but I am afraid to loose mid range efficiency. Too high slippage in the cruising mid range and the fuel economy is gone, and the cost of gas here is app. 9.5 USD/gallon so I prefer low slippage :)

What props are you using ?

Trueser 11-01-2008 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Phazar454Mag (Post 2635044)
The 76 MPH is with 29" labbed Bravo One props.
Higher speeds with 30" labbed Bravo One props.
I think even 32" Bravo have been used but I am not sure ?
Props are spinning out.
Gear ratio 1.65:1

Personally I run std. 28" Bravo One props so I have great acceleration but lower top speed (72-75 MPH). I am considering trying higher pitch props, but I am afraid to loose mid range efficiency. Too high slippage in the cruising mid range and the fuel economy is gone, and the cost of gas here is app. 9.5 USD/gallon so I prefer low slippage :)

What props are you using ?

Sorry I missed this.

I run 25 mirage plus. 80.4 gps last run on lake michigan.

Bronco 11-04-2008 04:26 PM

Trueser, what is the gear ratio of your drives?

Trueser 11-04-2008 05:36 PM

1.5

rssteiny 03-15-2009 05:19 PM

Ihave a freind looking a 292 with scorpions, only 61 hours, what kind of rpm are they running, what is the hours till refresh time.

thanks

Trueser 03-15-2009 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by rssteiny (Post 2821745)
Ihave a freind looking a 292 with scorpions, only 61 hours, what kind of rpm are they running, what is the hours till refresh time.

thanks


They run @ 5200 NOt sure on the refresh time.

pokerrunboats 03-18-2009 02:20 AM


Originally Posted by Phazar454Mag (Post 2634394)
Yes they do: http://sites.mercurymarine.com/pls/p...PION879310.PDF

but I think it is a ski engine.

its available Bravo style :ernaehrung004:

http://www.mercruiserparts.com/400_scorpion.htm


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