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Godacious! 12-19-2009 05:19 PM

4 blade prop vs 5 blade
 
I am still playing with propellers on my 496HO/353. Some of my friends say stick with the Bravo 4 blades like the ones that came new on my boat. Other friends say go with the 5 blade. What are the advantages and disadvantages? Anyone have an opinion?

tcuda499 12-19-2009 06:21 PM

I am in no way an expert in this field but I am learning so some one correct me if I'm wronge. A 5 blade will have less slip,better out of the hole but will also be harder on drives. Esp. on Bravo 1's. You will loose some rpm on top but your slip will be lower.I was looking into the same idea for mine but with a 38 and B1's much of OSO said to stay away from 5 blades. My X is also pretty low so I'm going with a spacer first. A 4 blade will slip more and your drives will thank you.

Barrydet 12-23-2009 11:23 AM

353 propellers
 
I have a 353/496HO combo also. The boat was delivered with Bravo 1 28's. With this set up, I would consistently turn 4700 WOT rpm's at 72mph. I typically travel with a full load of fuel (153gals). I am also very gentle while climbing onto plane.

Here is where the fun starts: I had a set of Maximus 15x30 from my previous formula 312. I did not want to them to go to waste. I consulted with Brett at BBlades. He performed some magic on the blades and trimmed off the diffuser rings. With this set up, I would consistently turn 4600rpm at 69mph. I noticed that the Maximus props pushed the boat out of the hole much "easier". I also noticed that my cruise speed at 3500rpm was 3mph higher. That fact equated to better MPG that I could see on my smartcraft display. I have been pleased with the performance of the Maximus props, but I have felt that I was at the bottom end of the WOT capabilitiy of the engines. I went looking for more...

This summer, I invested in the CMI Sportubes. Although the install process presented unforeseen challenges, Bob and Tanner from Full Throttle Marine, Spicewood, TX completed the project. I was seeking additional rpms at WOT. Here are the results: With the Sportubes installed the engines are now turning 4900rpm WOT at 74mph with the Maximus props. I am so pleased with this performance, that I have not used the Bravo 1's to get some comparitive numbers. I suspect that the Bravo 1's would provide some additional rpm's and mph. I plan to make the switch one day soon and try them out. I have also read that some folks are using Bravo 1 26's to get into the higher end of the WOT range. I hope to try that combination also just to see the results.

Hope this information is helpful, and by the way, all speeds were registered with a gps equipped speedometer.

4mulafastech 12-23-2009 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Barrydet (Post 3010915)
I have a 353/496HO combo also. The boat was delivered with Bravo 1 28's. With this set up, I would consistently turn 4700 WOT rpm's at 72mph. I typically travel with a full load of fuel (153gals). I am also very gentle while climbing onto plane.

Here is where the fun starts: I had a set of Maximus 15x30 from my previous formula 312. I did not want to them to go to waste. I consulted with Brett at BBlades. He performed some magic on the blades and trimmed off the diffuser rings. With this set up, I would consistently turn 4600rpm at 69mph. I noticed that the Maximus props pushed the boat out of the hole much "easier". I also noticed that my cruise speed at 3500rpm was 3mph higher. That fact equated to better MPG that I could see on my smartcraft display. I have been pleased with the performance of the Maximus props, but I have felt that I was at the bottom end of the WOT capabilitiy of the engines. I went looking for more...

This summer, I invested in the CMI Sportubes. Although the install process presented unforeseen challenges, Bob and Tanner from Full Throttle Marine, Spicewood, TX completed the project. I was seeking additional rpms at WOT. Here are the results: With the Sportubes installed the engines are now turning 4900rpm WOT at 74mph with the Maximus props. I am so pleased with this performance, that I have not used the Bravo 1's to get some comparitive numbers. I suspect that the Bravo 1's would provide some additional rpm's and mph. I plan to make the switch one day soon and try them out. I have also read that some folks are using Bravo 1 26's to get into the higher end of the WOT range. I hope to try that combination also just to see the results.

Hope this information is helpful, and by the way, all speeds were registered with a gps equipped speedometer.

Great info. Sounds like you are really getting her dialed in! Always good to have the engines able to run at their target rpm.

tcuda499 12-23-2009 06:37 PM

are the Maximus 15x30 4 or 5 blade? nice call on the cmi's

Barrydet 12-23-2009 07:41 PM

Maximus is mercury's 5 blade propeller.

Audiofn 12-23-2009 09:17 PM

They are HELL on lower units!!!

James 12-25-2009 04:29 PM

How tough are 5 blades on a lower unit really,it is often a relationship of Hp, getting up on plane even if the props are 100 % hooked up you are only 3000 rpm or maybe 350 Hp, 4000 rpm 450 Hp, Bravos are rated @ 525hp. Yes they have less slip but you will turn a 4 blade XX time more to go the same distance. Anything over the rate Mercury Hp limit is when you start looking for trouble

Audiofn 12-26-2009 06:25 AM

The lack of slip is what kills the drive more often then not. That is why most recommend that you only run three blade props on TRS drive boats.

t500hps 12-26-2009 07:10 AM

4 blades will get more RPM than a 5 blade so you must drop pitch and/or diameter to match RPM's with the 5 blades (this is because of less slip). That slip does help save drives but provide less "bite" on the water. 5 blades typically loose a couple MPH top end, even if matching rpm with a smaller prop, but the 5 blade will have a much better hole shot and mid-rage cruise speed.

axapowell 12-27-2009 10:07 AM

I have been running the 5 Blade Maximus props for 4 seasons now, and haven't had a lower unit problem. I still feel that it is HOW you drive your boat. I am easy out of the hole. The boat pops right up on plane with NO effort.

Could I Holeshot the boat? Sure. Will it FLY up on plane? Yep! Question: WHY? What could be the big hurry? A ton of money!

Cruise speeds and fuel economy are directly associated with the Maximus props. With my N/A 650hp + - a few HP's, I have outstanding cruise speeds and killer fuel economy: 1.5 mpg at 48 mph at 3000 to 3100 RPMs. Carbureted (850cfm Demons)!!

Brett at BBlades did this set of 28 pitch 15 3/8" diameter no difusser rings, for me. I also run a 32 pitch 15 1/4" diameter, diffuser rings removed, Bravo 1 4 blade (BBlades as well) for top speed, but not as good at cruise.

Hope that helps!

Dave

Snoboardcore 03-18-2010 01:44 PM

i went the opposite way. My 05 353 with 525's and extension boxes came with 5 blades from the factory and i was running about 80-81 with them in fresh water. I swapped them out for a set of bravo one 4 blades and i was running around 86 with them could maybe of squeezed another 1 mph out of it if i really tried. but the boat came out of the hole quicker cruised better and had better top speed also was easier to control around the docks because the idle speed was slower.


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