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Formula 303 sr1
I'm considering to buy a 1992 Formula 303 sr1 . I'm from Italy and the boat is located in France. I want to ask to you if the boat has a Wc and what do you think about this model....is there something that I have to check in detail on this boat?
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Here's a link to a ton of info on my boat...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/f...-pictures.html I love it, great size, easy and inexpensive to operate, and the quality is excellent. By Wc i assume you mean a head? Mine has a port-a-potty in the cabin with a pumpout fitting at the stern, and a y valve for discharge. I have never actually used it, but it's there. If you have any other specific questions, I'd be happy to help. |
Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3297381)
Here's a link to a ton of info on my boat...
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/f...-pictures.html I love it, great size, easy and inexpensive to operate, and the quality is excellent. By Wc i assume you mean a head? Mine has a port-a-potty in the cabin with a pumpout fitting at the stern, and a y valve for discharge. I have never actually used it, but it's there. If you have any other specific questions, I'd be happy to help. I have another question for you...is it possible to install a little bimini? I don't know if the boat that I'm considering has one, but if not I can buy/make one.. |
I've checked the adv of the boat and it has the bimini...maybe it will need a new cover but the structure is in good condition
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A bimini is easy, and should be no problem to replace the cover if you need to. I had this top made last year, and it makes spending a few days at a time on the boat much nicer.
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...1023100912.jpg |
Hmmmm, where is that pic taken at? Sure wish I was there.
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Originally Posted by bigboat28
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Hmmmm, where is that pic taken at? Sure wish I was there.
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I had two 303's, and there are a very nice, (roomy for the size), well handling boat. My favorite, till I got my 353. Good luck !.
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I almost bought a 303 but picked up a 311 instead. A little older but a lot more room.
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What about the top speed? 2 x 330 Mercruiser 7.4 L..... the one that I found has only 160 hours....seems not bad at all, but I have to check at the broker that everything is ok....
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Originally Posted by ElitePerformance
(Post 3299810)
What about the top speed? 2 x 330 Mercruiser 7.4 L..... the one that I found has only 160 hours....seems not bad at all, but I have to check at the broker that everything is ok....
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I had a 1993 303 with 502 Mag, carbs (410hp) with labbed props and running right below the limiter, I would get 72 gps consistantly!
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so around 65.... not bad at all! I'm guessing....it's the first time that I own a boat , so I would know what I have to do every year (maintenance) and the relative costs...
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....what about the price? the Adv that I found says that the boat is from 1992 but registered in 1997, and it has 160 hours.....what do you think is a fair price?
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Originally Posted by ElitePerformance
(Post 3301168)
so around 65.... not bad at all! I'm guessing....it's the first time that I own a boat , so I would know what I have to do every year (maintenance) and the relative costs...
Originally Posted by ElitePerformance
(Post 3302163)
....what about the price? the Adv that I found says that the boat is from 1992 but registered in 1997, and it has 160 hours.....what do you think is a fair price?
Price depends on so many factors I won't try to even guess. If you compare it to boats for sale in the US, how does it compare? There are a few 303's for sale in the classifieds section. If the boat is nice, well equipped, and you like it, make an offer. It's hard to pay too much for a nice one, but it's easy to pay too much for junk. Make sure you have someone competent survey the boat, this will save you $$$$$ in the future! Best of luck! Do you have any pictures of the boat you are looking at? |
Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3302314)
Maintenance on stock power combos is generally pretty strait forward. There is ton's of information on this forum and others when it comes to general upkeep. If you plan on doing the work yourself, you can save quite a bit of money. My winterization routine this year cost me about $250.00 to do everything myself. That included pulling both drives, changing all the fluids (Mobil 1 and merc gear lube), replacing 2 hoses that were showing some wear, new spark plugs, and some other general items. I have no idea what part costs and availability are in your part of the world, but I assume they would be readily available for 330HP mercruisers.
Price depends on so many factors I won't try to even guess. If you compare it to boats for sale in the US, how does it compare? There are a few 303's for sale in the classifieds section. If the boat is nice, well equipped, and you like it, make an offer. It's hard to pay too much for a nice one, but it's easy to pay too much for junk. Make sure you have someone competent survey the boat, this will save you $$$$$ in the future! Best of luck! Do you have any pictures of the boat you are looking at? http://www.rivieragency.com/IT/View.taf?IDO=170417&TV=1 In the adv ,the agency says that the boat is in excellent condition, 160 hours, antivegetative done in july 2008, and the boat has been always kept out of the water during winter... It will be easy to check the boat because I have a summer house in the same place that the boat is listed, so I will take a week end to go there and check it. |
The boat looks very nice. It seems expensive vs. US standards, there are some nice examples for sale here 20k USD less. There are certainly more for sale in this part of the world, though.
I assume it would be expensive to import a boat, so the freight and dutys might negate any cost savings, but it may be worth a look. |
3 day trips 2 guys one porta pottie? I do not think so. The 6 gallon head in my 382 needs to be pumped out daily with 3 people on board overnight.
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Originally Posted by rjr
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3 day trips 2 guys one porta pottie? I do not think so. The 6 gallon head in my 382 needs to be pumped out daily with 3 people on board overnight.
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Mine has a fitting back near the swim platform. 6 gallons in one day! wow... we honestly never really use ours except for emergencies anyway.
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Originally Posted by RT930turbo
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Mine has a fitting back near the swim platform. 6 gallons in one day! wow... we honestly never really use ours except for emergencies anyway.
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Maybe i's different around here... we just stand on the swim platform :p
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NEVER over fill it. It backs up into the toilet. Picture blasting along with a full toilet. You can also picture yourself scooping it out and refilling the beer bottles. Of course you could let it slosh around and end up in your bilge where all the belts and pumps will turn it into a fine mist of uric acid spraying all over everything. So it's really more like 4 gallons. It doesn't take long to fill.
The swim platform works for me too but when you are rafted up the ladies frown on such ungentlemanly behavior. |
I've called the owner and I'm gonna see the boat in the next weeks....
I check some video about the 303 engine....but what about if I want more sound?! are there any aftermarket exhaust ? without spending a fortune of course... |
Originally Posted by ElitePerformance
(Post 3320754)
I've called the owner and I'm gonna see the boat in the next weeks....
I check some video about the 303 engine....but what about if I want more sound?! are there any aftermarket exhaust ? without spending a fortune of course... |
Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3320794)
Just pull the silent thunder box under the platform... Takes about an hour to do, and gives you open exhaust. There are chrome tips that just plug into the back of the box. They do have internal flappers, but I put some rubber ones on just for safety. Sounds MUCH better :evilb:
So, it may sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iQPgV28dJc ? I have only to remove the silent thunder box and that's all? I don't understand what you said about internal flappers but I will ask you for more if I will buy the boat : )) . It seems interesting anyway.....I'm not a pro in doing mechanical stuff so I will need a help from someone...not a problem I think. And what about a valve exhaust to use in open/close mode? I'm sure that my father will complain about the noise....he's more traditional than me! :lolhit: I've also considered the fact to change the power control to make it look more "fresh"......have you any website to suggest me? of course Livorsi comes first... |
I found this in another thread:
"I had my box off for a while. Got tired of the noise and complaints after a while, so I put the box back on, but removed the 4 plugs. There is plenty of room to add 4 more holes / plugs allowing more water to escape with plugs out, and improve the sound. I like this sound best. Louder than stock, quieter than wide open exhaust without the crackle. Smooth sound, but very deep and does not irritate my neighbors or when going into marinas in the evening." It seems a middle way from stock to open exhaust....so basically he made more holes in the box? or just removed the 4 plugs? Sorry for the question but sometimes my english doesn't fit very well with specific topic like this : ) |
Originally Posted by ElitePerformance
(Post 3321487)
I found this in another thread:
"I had my box off for a while. Got tired of the noise and complaints after a while, so I put the box back on, but removed the 4 plugs. There is plenty of room to add 4 more holes / plugs allowing more water to escape with plugs out, and improve the sound. I like this sound best. Louder than stock, quieter than wide open exhaust without the crackle. Smooth sound, but very deep and does not irritate my neighbors or when going into marinas in the evening." It seems a middle way from stock to open exhaust....so basically he made more holes in the box? or just removed the 4 plugs? Sorry for the question but sometimes my english doesn't fit very well with specific topic like this : ) That way you can install or remove the plugs for more or less sound. Switchable mufflers would be expensive to install. Just try it with the silent thunder, they really do sound good, like a muscle car. It's a good rumble, but not overbearing. There is no performance increase with the box off vs on. Sound is a non-issue where we boat, so I don't worry about it much. As for controls, Livorsi is a good choice! |
Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3321713)
Some people drill big holes in the bottom of the silent thunder box, like the kind you would use for access in a floor or bulkhead with a plug.
That way you can install or remove the plugs for more or less sound. Switchable mufflers would be expensive to install. Just try it with the silent thunder, they really do sound good, like a muscle car. It's a good rumble, but not overbearing. There is no performance increase with the box off vs on. Sound is a non-issue where we boat, so I don't worry about it much. As for controls, Livorsi is a good choice! http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/a...echs-stbox.jpg So I have to drill holes (4 will be enought?) in the bottom of this and put something like this http://www.google.it/imgres?imgurl=h...1t:429,r:2,s:0 which I can remove when I want more sound. Is it right? How large it would be the holes to get a great sound? |
I think that something like this it will be perfect...4" will be enough ; ))
http://www.nauticexpo.com/prod/nicro...56-250180.html easy to screw on and screw off |
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