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J.B. Marshall 06-20-2012 08:08 PM

Bravo one to XR advice needed
 
So I'm considering changing over to XR drives from the orignal Bravo one's on my 2000 382 Fastech. Can anyone provide me with pro's /con's and what else I need to consider if I do the change over.

Thanks JB

RedDog382 06-20-2012 09:50 PM

Standard Bravos have helical-cut gears. XR have heavier straight-cut gears and a thicker propshaft. They suck up a few more HP and run the same props but need a different hub. I have Max Machine prepped XR drives on my 382 with 650 hp/650 ft. lb. and never had a drive issue.

axapowell 06-21-2012 08:33 AM

On your 2000, you might have to do the gimble bearing upgrade. They have a conversion kit that includes a new gamble bearing, drive limiters, and the ring that holds the bellows in. With those drives and your power (500 efi's, right?) you will be bullet proof! I'm running XR's and take it easy with 650, and no problems.

Dave

J.B. Marshall 06-21-2012 12:38 PM

I spoke with Merc high performance tech and he suggested that the X drive would be very suitable with 500 hp. Any input or thoughts on that?

axapowell 06-21-2012 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by J.B. Marshall (Post 3714666)
I spoke with Merc high performance tech and he suggested that the X drive would be very suitable with 500 hp. Any input or thoughts on that?

Price shop it out...I didn't even think they still made X or XZ drives anymore. For the added cost, parts availability, and piece of mind...XR.

Just my $.02

Dave

aquaforce 06-21-2012 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by J.B. Marshall (Post 3714666)
I spoke with Merc high performance tech and he suggested that the X drive would be very suitable with 500 hp. Any input or thoughts on that?



"Suitable" vs "bullet proof" would be the quandry. I would go with bullet proof. Merc just seems to slightly under build the drives anyway with the high numbers of failure.

XR.

pokerrunboats 06-23-2012 06:04 PM

go with the Imco SCX


best Bravo Style drive

jwurl 06-23-2012 08:19 PM

Bravo XR gears wear at a much higher rate. The xr gear life is close to a quarter of the life of standard Bravo gears. If your running standard 500's with no mods, i would run regular standard 2002 and later standard bravos. The 2002 and later Bravos have a much stronger gear set. I did the same swap on my Fastech. I switched to XR's but I am running a 700hp 540. If you switch to XR's you will also loose about 3mph off the top end. XRs also only have 1.50 and lower gear ratios. You may have 1.65 ratio now. There is a Mercury install kit for the Xrs you will need which has a new gimbal bearing and trim limit spacers for the trim rams. Jeff wurl

J.B. Marshall 06-25-2012 06:04 AM

Thanks to all for your input. I should have something to report back on the upgrades by weeks end.

JB

thirdchildhood 06-25-2012 06:44 AM

I can only share my personal experience:
Swapped 496 HO for a HP 525EFI
Bravo 1x upper grenaded within 7 hours of running. The upper gears broke up. I'm already running an Imco lower.
Switched to old style XR upper and had lower gone through.
XR now on 4th trouble free season.

I remember something about needing a red dot gimbal brg. , which I did have already in there. Otherwise it is a simple bolt-on replacement.


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