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debcod2 07-01-2012 08:31 PM

Aluminum trailers
 
So since some dousche bag decided he need my trailer more than I did over the weekend and stole mine, I need to buy a new one.

I had an eagle tri axle and it was fine til we moved to GA and smoked the surge brakes to hell with the hills down here so I will be doing electric over hydraulic this time instead and will be done with it.

I am thinking of going to an aluminum trailer this time and would like to know who has them for their formulas now, what it is, how they hold up etc.

I have emailed for quotes to about 8 different trailer mfgs tonight so we will see what happens.

Any input on this would be great.
Thanks

Sydwayz 07-01-2012 09:00 PM

You pretty much have two options. Spend the coin on a welded aluminum Myco, perhaps a few bucks less on a Manning.

And then there is everyone else that makes bolt together trailers.

There's a few manufacturers that make welded aluminum trailers, but I have yet to see any of them hold a candle to Myco and Manning.

88242LS 07-01-2012 09:43 PM

some people are stupid, sorry to hear, I had a alum trailer when i bought my 271, hated it from day one, unless your in salt steel is the only way

Expensive Date 07-01-2012 10:05 PM

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Very happy with my Manning,just like you said get the electric over hydraulic brakes.

1MOSES1 07-01-2012 10:59 PM

Everyone is going to recommend manning and myco. The funny part is that 95% of those people don't own one themselves. Haha.

To re-iterate what others have said there are the two M's and everyone else. Depends on your application and the money you are willing to spend. Can't go wrong with either. If you are in the market for a bolt together I would recommend all American, real extreme, nextrail, rocket, or slide on. Personally I vote for real extreme. Use quality material, 7.5 I beam instead of 6.5, etc. I have had two trailers from the, and I'd use them again.

sprink58 07-02-2012 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3721660)
Everyone is going to recommend manning and myco. The funny part is that 95% of those people don't own one themselves. Haha.

To re-iterate what others have said there are the two M's and everyone else. Depends on your application and the money you are willing to spend. Can't go wrong with either. If you are in the market for a bolt together I would recommend all American, real extreme, nextrail, rocket, or slide on. Personally I vote for real extreme. Use quality material, 7.5 I beam instead of 6.5, etc. I have had two trailers from the, and I'd use them again.

My 10,300 # All American has 7.5" frame. Sure beats hell out of any steel trailer I ever had...and I have had some very good Rockets and WebOns. The interesting thing is that it only weighs 1100 #'s. Take a look at Dolphin Trailers out of New Jersey. They build a good product and are very honest.

http://www.dolphinboattrailers.com/

debcod2 07-02-2012 08:17 AM


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Very happy with my Manning,just like you said get the electric over hydraulic brakes.

How does that trailer handle with tandem axles? I tried a tandem when we bought this boat and it was kind of squirly and it was buit for a 292. Thats why I went triple axle. Harder on tires but trailed much better.

t500hps 07-02-2012 08:29 AM

Some years ago I had bought several aluminum's built by Fastload (312 and 382 among others). Although I like the trailers I've heard a number of stories about poor customer service there now.....don't use them.

88242LS 07-02-2012 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by debcod2 (Post 3721787)
How does that trailer handle with tandem axles? I tried a tandem when we bought this boat and it was kind of squirly and it was buit for a 292. Thats why I went triple axle. Harder on tires but trailed much better.



I have a tandem under my 303, straight as a arrow even behind the half ton, now I'm not running 75/80 mph either, 60 even 65 downhill no issues, never went faster then that no need I was gaining some momentum for the next hill LOL, if you trailer a 100 miles each way I would say triple, but for me only doing a cpl roadtrips a year, I'll take the maneuverability of a tandem, especially since its a pretty hard jack into my driveway



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Expensive Date 07-02-2012 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by debcod2 (Post 3721787)
How does that trailer handle with tandem axles? I tried a tandem when we bought this boat and it was kind of squirly and it was buit for a 292. Thats why I went triple axle. Harder on tires but trailed much better.

Never sways at all, even coming down a mountain have run 80 with it (let the flaming begin) it has a lot to do with tongue weight also. This is were a custom for the boat trailer has an advantage as it was made for a specific boat. Also I do tow with a dually which is way overkill but I like it.

It comes down to what you want to do with it I tow a lot I'm doing a poker run at the end of this month with a 700 mile R/T tow. I had a Loadright that came with the boat it was always a pain to load, with the Manning I can do it myself boat lines itself up.

Sydwayz 07-02-2012 05:51 PM

We've had a couple customers put 33ATs on tandem trailers. They are both member here. One on a Myco, one on a Manning. They are both very happy with their setups.

1MOSES1 07-02-2012 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3721696)
My 10,300 # All American has 7.5" frame. Sure beats hell out of any steel trailer I ever had...and I have had some very good Rockets and WebOns. The interesting thing is that it only weighs 1100 #'s. Take a look at Dolphin Trailers out of New Jersey. They build a good product and are very honest.

http://www.dolphinboattrailers.com/

7.5" from all american is not standard on a 8500# trailer.

sprink58 07-02-2012 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3722262)
7.5" from all american is not standard on a 8500# trailer.

OK..mine's not 8500#...it's 10,300#...tandem....so..neither were the Torsion axles or the 12,500 brake package....what else?

I'm pulling 7500#...loaded including trailer. Previously I had a steel tandem that weighed 3200# that put me at 9700# loaded.
I was "sucking up the seat covers" every time I towed that combo. Now with the aluminum rig I'm loving life. With 400# tongue weight it pulls nicely. The surge brakes are very good but I will upgrade to E over H down the road.

debcod2 07-02-2012 08:12 PM

I have quotes from All American, McClain and Hi Tech as well as Eagle.
All American quoted it with 7.5 rails as well as Hi Tech did. By going with the triple axle, it will also boost the capacity some and I am a firm believer of going over kill a little instead of pushing the max limits on things.

I tried a tandem for 2 weeks when we bought this boat and even though it was built for a 292 Fastec, it just trailered wierd and did goofy things and tried to wander. Thats why I went triple axle.

Also talked to Nextrail and I am not going to start bashing but the guy was just an arrogant jerk and I wont by one from them at all after that conversation.

1MOSES1 07-02-2012 08:27 PM

just saying all american charges for everything. and you are talking gvr and i am talking carrying. #8500 carrying is 10300 gvr. so we are talking the same trailer.

sprink58 07-02-2012 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by debcod2 (Post 3722311)
I have quotes from All American, McClain and Hi Tech as well as Eagle.
All American quoted it with 7.5 rails as well as Hi Tech did. By going with the triple axle, it will also boost the capacity some and I am a firm believer of going over kill a little instead of pushing the max limits on things.

I tried a tandem for 2 weeks when we bought this boat and even though it was built for a 292 Fastec, it just trailered wierd and did goofy things and tried to wander. Thats why I went triple axle.

Also talked to Nextrail and I am not going to start bashing but the guy was just an arrogant jerk and I wont by one from them at all after that conversation.

I think if I had a 292 I would go trips as well. All American offered the same 10,300# with trips...the reason I didn't was honestly (don't laugh) because I didn't think I could get it in my driveway...even though my drive way is 85' long and 40' wide!!:evilb: There's just not enough street room to maneuver much more than the 30" trailer I have. I guess yours with trips is about 35'~36'?

88242LS 07-02-2012 08:50 PM

http://www.pcbtrailers.com/

Talk to Bill, we were gonna build me a 12k tandem for a boat I was looking at

Rippem 07-02-2012 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by debcod2 (Post 3722311)
I tried a tandem for 2 weeks when we bought this boat and even though it was built for a 292 Fastec, it just trailered wierd and did goofy things and tried to wander.

axle alignment. easy to deal with on those trailers

debcod2 07-03-2012 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3722326)
I think if I had a 292 I would go trips as well. All American offered the same 10,300# with trips...the reason I didn't was honestly (don't laugh) because I didn't think I could get it in my driveway...even though my drive way is 85' long and 40' wide!!:evilb: There's just not enough street room to maneuver much more than the 30" trailer I have. I guess yours with trips is about 35'~36'?

Damn! a drive way that is 85' long and 40' wide? You could just about get a 737 in there! lol! Just messing with you.

I agree that triples are a little harder to deal with at times but I am so used to it after all these years.

debcod2 07-03-2012 11:02 AM

Looks like I am going to give Bruce at All American a try on this. The capacity of the tri axle he is going to give me the final quote on is 13,680lbs net capacity and on 7.5" I beams. I know its over kill but I also feel that the tri axle Eagle I used to have was right at the limits so I know I wont have to worry that I am close to or maxing this new one out!

Bruce down there has been very easy to deal with so far and has answered all my questions and given me the info I have asked for right away.

I will keep you posted as I go and will send pics once I get it in the next few weeks.

Now I have to keep fighting with the ins company. The found a minor glitch with our policy in that when we insured the boat and original trailer, my old agent in ILlinois didnt split it out and my wife and I never caught that on the policy. Plus Illinois does boat policies a little different than down here. But looks like we may have the answer to close that loop hole. I hope!

sprink58 07-03-2012 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by debcod2 (Post 3722758)
Damn! a drive way that is 85' long and 40' wide? You could just about get a 737 in there! lol! Just messing with you.

I agree that triples are a little harder to deal with at times but I am so used to it after all these years.

I here ya...driveway is wider than the friggin street and the neighbor across the street puts the stink eye on me when I drive 12" into his yard!! With a 1/2 ton F-150 KR I can't get enough swing to break anything longer than about 30'.

sprink58 07-03-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3722322)
just saying all american charges for everything. and you are talking gvr and i am talking carrying. #8500 carrying is 10300 gvr. so we are talking the same trailer.

I guess mine was a freebie extra....$4200 A~Z out the door.

1MOSES1 07-05-2012 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by sprink58 (Post 3722889)
I guess mine was a freebie extra....$4200 A~Z out the door.

Unfortunatly price comparing trailers purchased years or even months apart is not apples to apples. It's all dependent on the market and what aluminum is being traded for and cost of brakes, axles, etc...i.e. last year I called manning for a trailer to fit our 292. qouted $5800 to my door. 1 year later called manning again for the same trailer...it was now $7000. I asked why the sudden increase, and he said cost of material.

So great you bought yours for 4200. You win.

sprink58 07-05-2012 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by 2fast9tech2 (Post 3723669)
Unfortunatly price comparing trailers purchased years or even months apart is not apples to apples. It's all dependent on the market and what aluminum is being traded for and cost of brakes, axles, etc...i.e. last year I called manning for a trailer to fit our 292. qouted $5800 to my door. 1 year later called manning again for the same trailer...it was now $7000. I asked why the sudden increase, and he said cost of material.

So great you bought yours for 4200. You win.

That was 12/11...today it might be $6200...or $3200...who knows.

debcod2 07-16-2012 08:11 PM

:party-smiley-020:

Whooo Hoo! new trailer is done and ready for pickup and I am in FL to bring it home! Just in time to pull the boat out of the water and get her cleaned up for the poker run this weekend!

As an added bonus, after a lot of arguing with State Farm on this and having them research my full policy for this and previous boats, they realized that my old agent made a mistake on the policy and they are covering the loss!!!!!

I would highly recomend that everyone double check their coverages since 2 of my other buddies thought their trailers would be covered for theft but turns out they were not! they were only covered for collision and property damage!

I will post some pics of the new one later this week.


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