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Car Biz 09-06-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by Jg1000 (Post 3770888)
Yeah I totally agree. I want to spin mine up to that range to see if it makes more power.

What dart heads do you have ? Are those numbers at the flywheel ?

Dart 308's out of the box no portwork

Yes that is on the dyno.

Jg1000 09-07-2012 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Car Biz (Post 3770990)
Dart 308's out of the box no portwork

Yes that is on the dyno.

hmmm wonder what the flow test comparison is between those and magnum rectangle ports is? I can say that these cams adleast sound fkn kick ass at idle ; ) I think that I will port the heads, manifold, and a set of 496 manifolds and call it done. That is more work that I was thinking of doing but valve guides could use replacing and rest is just port work. I would think that would kick me into 70mph level but if not maybe just be happy and put the money into gas; )

Car Biz 09-07-2012 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Jg1000 (Post 3771445)
hmmm wonder what the flow test comparison is between those and magnum rectangle ports is? I can say that these cams adleast sound fkn kick ass at idle ; ) I think that I will port the heads, manifold, and a set of 496 manifolds and call it done. That is more work that I was thinking of doing but valve guides could use replacing and rest is just port work. I would think that would kick me into 70mph level but if not maybe just be happy and put the money into gas; )

keep in mind the Darts have the raised exhaust ports and are
2.25 intake valves compared to the 2.19

stock rectagle ports will make good power ported though!!!

Dtile 09-07-2012 08:20 AM

Rec Heads
 

Originally Posted by Car Biz (Post 3771568)
keep in mind the Darts have the raised exhaust ports and are
2.25 intake valves compared to the 2.19

stock rectagle ports will make good power ported though!!!

Al ittle off subject but...I found two mag motors with both motors having bad rods...
Its a gen IV with rectaglar heads. intake shot as with eshaust.
I have a pair of stock non mag motors which I would like to beef up upper end. The long block has 50 hours on it, but I beleive remains non forged internals. My mechanic thinks the cam is beefer but cant confirm. Its a 292 1988. I plan to purchase aftermarket Exhaust. My intakes are new and carbs just rebuilt. My heads are mismatched. One is small oval peanut, the other is lage oval. the boat still runs in its specs range. Will porting Rec heads make nay differnce? Will it need a new carb/intake to get the max out of the hp? Will the internals really brak down. I run it hard 20-30% of the day.

Jg1000 09-07-2012 09:32 AM

That bottom end is good under 5krpms but cast pistons can't take detonation. IMO the juice ain't worth the squeeze. adding the top end will put your rpm range higher and you will probably only gain couple mph. I think the exhaust is a good investment because they add power and save weight, plus cast are gonna rust out eventually and possibly damage your motor. Just my 2 cents. You would also need the intake and carb setup to match for that rpm range.


It seems to me that the dart heads aren't that much better than the stock rectangle ports. Looking at my cam specs vs. merc 420 specs it just seems to be a tad to big if I upgraded my motor to 420 specs , which I believe is gil exhaust and 1.7 roller rockers.... the gears are turning hard now; )

Dtile 09-07-2012 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Jg1000 (Post 3771634)
I think the exhaust is a good investment because they add power and save weight, plus cast are gonna rust out eventually and possibly damage your motor. Just my 2 cents. You would also need the intake and carb setup to match for that rpm range.

Thanks JG...what exhuat people recommenad keeping in mind the space is tight...and why 496 Mercs? They special/made well compared to GIl/Stainless Marine/ImCO, etc?

Car Biz 09-07-2012 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jg1000 (Post 3771634)
It seems to me that the dart heads aren't that much better than the stock rectangle ports. Looking at my cam specs vs. merc 420 specs it just seems to be a tad to big if I upgraded my motor to 420 specs , which I believe is gil exhaust and 1.7 roller rockers.... the gears are turning hard now; )

i disagree on the heads they lend themselves for more power to be made.

my motors make more power than a 420 and with WAY less cam and dual plane intakes!

the power is in the heads

Jg1000 09-08-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Dtile (Post 3771932)
Thanks JG...what exhuat people recommenad keeping in mind the space is tight...and why 496 Mercs? They special/made well compared to GIl/Stainless Marine/ImCO, etc?

no gil , or some stainless system would be better than 496 exhaust is just a cheap option to upgrade to. If i were to personally use it, I would port them as much as possible to flow as much as possible.

Jg1000 09-08-2012 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Car Biz (Post 3771973)
i disagree on the heads they lend themselves for more power to be made.

my motors make more power than a 420 and with WAY less cam and dual plane intakes!

the power is in the heads

I don't doubt that they are better but I personally don't want to spend the extra money over just porting mine.

Car Biz 09-08-2012 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jg1000 (Post 3772353)
I personally don't want to spend the extra money over just porting mine.


i agree


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