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davidcol 07-17-2013 06:30 PM

Hi,

I had the local mercury dealer do the test. He told me that number 4 was only 55 psi the other 7 were between 100 and 105. Then he said the cheapest way to go would be to just get a new long block rebuilt from merc. Not sure if there is any other way to go. He did tell me I could still run the boat as much as I wanted and that it was just a tired engine.

endeavour32 07-17-2013 06:52 PM

I would not buy a new long block from merc. I would get the engine pulled and take it to a good marine engine builder. I'm sure there are plenty in your area, go to the general Q&A section and post your question. In the end the engine will be balanced, hand assembled and be a much stronger engine than an off the shelf merc engine and most likely 1/3 the price.

davidcol 07-17-2013 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by endeavour32 (Post 3960545)
I would not buy a new long block from merc. I would get the engine pulled and take it to a good marine engine builder. I'm sure there are plenty in your area, go to the general Q&A section and post your question. In the end the engine will be balanced, hand assembled and be a much stronger engine than an off the shelf merc engine and most likely 1/3 the price.

Ok, I just posted a thread in the Q and A section.

Thanks

tpenfield 07-18-2013 04:46 AM


Originally Posted by davidcol (Post 3960532)
Hi,

I had the local mercury dealer do the test. He told me that number 4 was only 55 psi the other 7 were between 100 and 105. Then he said the cheapest way to go would be to just get a new long block rebuilt from merc. Not sure if there is any other way to go. He did tell me I could still run the boat as much as I wanted and that it was just a tired engine.

The 'best' way to fix it really depends on the source of the low compression. If it is valve issues, then a valve job could fix it without the replacement of the engine, so long as the lower end is good. A cylinder leak test could get you that additional information as to where the cylinders are leaking. If it is valves only, then maybe a top-end rebuild. If it is rings and valves, then maybe go for the longblock.

As mentioned, a local engine rebuilding shop might get you more diagnosis and options. I would check out their background and reputation as best you can before you commit.

84 Formula 272 07-20-2013 11:00 AM

I have a similar issue with my 84 272LS mine may be over propped 23p props with 350 motors that were rebuilt a couple years ago I run on the muddy Missouri river most of the time and 3900rpm is it it seems I can get a few mor RPMs going down river but not much when I go to a lake I can get about 4300 RPMs that heavy muddy river water makes a big difference!!!

sprink58 07-20-2013 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by 84 Formula 272 (Post 3961959)
I have a similar issue with my 84 272LS mine may be over propped 23p props with 350 motors that were rebuilt a couple years ago I run on the muddy Missouri river most of the time and 3900rpm is it it seems I can get a few mor RPMs going down river but not much when I go to a lake I can get about 4300 RPMs that heavy muddy river water makes a big difference!!!

If the 350's are Standard Head Pre Vortec models you're not developing enough power to swing 23's. My 355 Vortec engines with Comp XM 272 Rollers are turning 23" Mirage Plus over 5000 thru Bravo I's in my Formula 255 Liberator which is very similar to your 272.

Try a set of 21" Mirage Plus...I think you will be happy with the performance and you should see 4700~4800 RPM.

84 Formula 272 07-21-2013 09:11 AM

What will the 21p props effect be on my cruising speed and fuel economy ? It cruises at 40mph Luke a dream and I very seldom see wot!! Would 21p props give me more top end speed or just more RPMs at the same speed? I see 55mph with normal laod of fuel and people on board on a good day with no kansas wind Friday night we hit 52mph on my hummingbird gps going up river with 4 people and half tank of fuel!! Will I hurt the boat if I leave the 23p props on it? I've only owned the boat for a year but I assume the props have been on there a long time and I have 3 of them!!
Sorry to hijack your thread!!

davidcol 07-27-2013 04:04 PM

Hi, Does anyone know what the correct RPMs should be at idle for this boat? 1995 271 SR1 with 454 efi.

Thank ou

davidcol 09-25-2013 08:11 PM

Hi, to revisit this issue, I am taking the engine to have a leak down/blow down test to check the valves and the rings. However, I have been thinking of upgrading to a 502 or 496HO. In this case, would it be cost effective to sell the 454 as is fully dressed and use the money to put towards a used low hour 502 or 496HO? Is the 454 worth anything as is? Any parts of it that I should keep?

KMONEY306 09-27-2013 08:40 PM

rebuild the 454. Throw a cam at it and bore it .30 over and work the heads. Throw on some stainless manifolds to let it breathe. youll be increasing the power for much less money.


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