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4bus 06-18-2014 10:19 AM

Pay him/them with American Ex, reverse charges next day :D

That is terrible work. The crease will go away with sun, however that work is too loose in general and will never tighten up.

I agree to contact formula and see what they offer. The vinyl is relatively cheap, rebuilding that foam and backers may get pricey.

What are you local laws? I know in NY you can't keep the property, only take the buyer to court. My car dealers run in to this problem all the time on repair work. My customer last week had a woman come to his shop with the cops to pick up her car that had a $2200 repair bill because she could not pay. Cops let her take the car. Maybe go demand you seat foam and backer without the new vinyl and move on?

On a side note I had my vinyl done 3 years ago, last year some stitching came out and they fixed for free.

302 06-18-2014 10:29 AM

Tell him to enjoy his $1700 seat with the sh*t job vinyl. He won't be able to sell it ever.

Buy a new seat from Formula or check with Mcleod (as others have mentioned)

Knot 4 Me 06-18-2014 10:42 AM

Pretty sure I could do a better job completely wrecked on Tito's. NFW I'd pay for that job.

badmonkey 06-18-2014 11:19 AM

:waffen093:

tpenfield 06-18-2014 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 4139520)
That is terrible work. The crease will go away with sun, however that work is too loose in general and will never tighten up.

I

If the guy used the proper vinyl (Nautolex), it will never tighten up. . . .

I'd see which side the local laws are on and go from there.

Wally 06-18-2014 02:43 PM

Maybe wrapping your truck in vinyl advertising how crappy his work is and showing up at the shop, in the truck, to pay him will change his mind :D: ......and throw the dealer on there as well and stop there first! :mad: what a bunch of crap

FIXX 06-18-2014 04:50 PM

yes it looks horrible,,the bottom seat seams dont even match..ask him if he takes paypal then pay him and then put in a complaint rite away and they will hold the money..or try and pay with a credit card...BTW mcload wants like a grand for the skins for the back seat..

88242LS 06-18-2014 05:52 PM

call the local news just for giggles

Rippem 06-18-2014 07:25 PM

have a feeling after what's already transpired the guys only gonna take cash or check.

you can stop pmt on the check but get there first, the local po-po ain't gonna look kindly on a rubber one for $1700

Mentalpause 06-18-2014 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4139534)
Pretty sure I could do a better job completely wrecked on Tito's. NFW I'd pay for that job.

I wouldn't pay for it either. Even if it cost me more overall I'd rather pay for a new sub structure and get it done right. Then spend plenty of time posting all over the internet what QC work this guy really does.

nailit 06-19-2014 07:17 AM

That looks like crap. It ogives along with the saying pay for what you get. Though, that's not even worth the 1700. Maybe a grand considering it's 3k+ for good work.

The wrinkles will not come out, if you notice the vinyl walked on one side and is not in alignment. He probably used his wife's machine either rushed the job or needed to use a walking foot machine to help keep in alignment.

Could have been worse, could have paid more! Good luck either way,

phragle 06-19-2014 07:39 AM

My local place completely ganked my back seat, but at least mine was only 400.... Had a diamond pattern inset, how, when you have the both pieces of the seat, do you get the inset off by 5 inches between the bottom and back???

donzi matt 06-19-2014 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by nailit (Post 4140115)
Though, that's not even worth the 1700. Maybe a grand considering it's 3k+ for good work.

There is no way that is 3 grand worth of work done right. I have had lots of top quality interior work done and would expect to pay around 1500 in this area for a good job on that seat.

To the OP you and I are only one state away from each other. If you need a recommendation for somebody who could do good interior work let me know.

KMONEY306 06-19-2014 02:49 PM

are you kidding me? dont buy a new seat. Grab a buddy and go down to the guys shop and get your damn seat back.. You guys are all sounding far too kind for this kind of behavior. That wouldnt fly with me.

88242LS 06-19-2014 08:15 PM

had back seat/rear sun pad done last year for 1100, I eliminated the sectionals on the back of the back seat for ease, second boat I have done this too, same guy, $1050

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...psab277543.jpg
http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...psbcab6153.jpg
http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps79d17bb0.jpg

88242LS 06-19-2014 08:18 PM

The wrinkles in the top pic in the Fucia (pink) are basically gone, yours is another story, Locally we have a news station that anyone can call called "call for action" maybe you have something similar locally

88242LS 06-19-2014 08:19 PM

we matched the front seats very close,

http://i495.photobucket.com/albums/r...psb74dc104.jpg

Nordic Bear 06-19-2014 08:31 PM

It looks like,,, a slept in bed... :0/....

wingnit 06-21-2014 12:31 PM

Call Guido. He can fix your problem for less than $1700 and get your seat back. :whistle:

aquaforce 06-22-2014 08:34 PM

I don't think that seat looks like what I would accept for vinyl work, I think it is terrible.

To bad it is at this point to learn but Formula has that seat skin already put together that you can buy and put on or have it put on at a small fraction of this $1,700 rip off. As some said you could find a bad seat and get the Formula skins and have a brand new looking part for the same money.

I delt with a gouger like this once on my first boat. When I asked all the questions that an atty told me he needed info for the guy decided he didn't want any legal probs. I didn't like the outcome but I did get a resolution quick and I was on my way.

Best of luck getting your bird back on the water and definitely show this guys work all over!!!!!

ezrizer 06-22-2014 09:35 PM

I believe the pro's use heat / steam to remove wrinkles, unfortunately that doesn't look like professional work and I don't think any amount of heat / steam will resolve those issues. If you're going to try and reason with him you'll have to be objective and you guys are going to have agree on what amount of wrinkles is industry standard and decide if you have more or less than that. As far as I know 0 wrinkles is industry standard and it looks like you have alot more than 0. How many wrinkles were in the upholstery when you brought it in? Probably less than now and I'm sure you had the seat recovered for reasons other than wrinkles, with that said why would he think that it's acceptable to replace a seat with no wrinkles with one full of wrinkles? I would assume you were willing to pay $1700 because you were trying to make your seat better than it was, I'm guessing at this point you merely traded one problem for another? That should be worth much less than $1700. Best of luck to you, I wouldn't give him a penny and like others said I would start from scratch, I'm sure you can resolve this for less than $1700 even starting from scratch. Just some thoughts, hope it helps.

auto_werks 3.6 06-23-2014 01:56 PM

Honestly yea, the wrinkles are pretty bad, but the way the seams wander around makes my eyes bug out. I could look at a wrinkly seat if I had to (no pun intended), but I couldn't stand to look at the Picaso that he turned it into. It may actually look worse if the work was a little tighter.

ryan450r 06-25-2014 07:27 PM

Well, this isn't the outcome I was hoping for but it looks like I will be moving forward with purchasing a new seat. Unless anyone knows where I can find a used one?

I called Paul Compagnon again last week with no call back. I called again this week and he did call me back. Telling me I pay in full or he sells my seat in 30 days.

Poor business man.

Casey's Canvas & Upholstery
Prim Rd. Colchester, VT.
802-879-0447

I'm posting his name here so that if people search(google) for reviews they might find this thread, see the pictures(on page 1), and can see what they might be getting for workmanship and attitude before engaging on a project with him.

I appreciate everyones feedback here. As you can imagine I've been stressing about this whole deal and he has now basically ruined my seat and my 2014 boating season. But, at least I can sleep at night when I have 60 posts of people that agree with me. You guys are awesome!:cool:

Mentalpause 06-25-2014 07:38 PM

You may want to post in the beware and stolen forum too.

ezrizer 06-25-2014 08:18 PM

LOL, Who would buy it? Not exactly a lot of people beating the door down looking for a poorly covered 382 seat. You'd have to have a really bad seat to buy that one as an upgrade. The ironic thing is the cost for him to redo it would probably be much less than the difference in what you'd pay if it was done properly and what he'll get if he can sell it. Of course this assumes that he can actually do a good job.

ryan450r 06-25-2014 08:24 PM

Yeah, he obviously can't sell the seat like that. He will have to remove the cover and then maybe the seat is worth something.

Keith Atlanta 06-25-2014 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by ezrizer (Post 4143853)
LOL, Who would buy it? Not exactly a lot of people beating the door down looking for a poorly covered 382 seat. You'd have to have a really bad seat to buy that one as an upgrade. The ironic thing is the cost for him to redo it would probably be much less than the difference in what you'd pay if it was done properly and what he'll get if he can sell it. Of course this assumes that he can actually do a good job.

LOL thats exactly what I was thinking. 90% of 382 owners are here on OSO and the rest are obviously discerning enough to own a 38 foot boat, why in the heck would they want the "wrinkle" seat?

blefever 06-26-2014 12:20 AM

He'll never sell it, but if he dose find someone to buy it, they deserve each other. He's trying to play hardball with you. Stick to your guns and tell him to stick it. I can't believe anyone in business trying to pass that off as being acceptable.

wingnit 06-26-2014 06:11 AM

Go to the ripoff.com website http://ripoff.com/ and get his name up in lights. Every time someone searches his company name, it will come up. Members here might also be willing to help keep him on top of the list ensuring that his company name continues to be mud. Also file a complaint with the better business bureau. If the shop that referred him has also pi_ _ ed you off, you can do them too. One good turn deserves another.

tpenfield 06-26-2014 07:15 AM

If you google the business and town, it only seems to come up as a listing on "finditnow.com"

You could leave a review there as well and point them to your pictures.

It seems that there are quite a few upholstery places in the Burlington/Colchester area, but this guy looks likes a nobody versus many of the others . . . Barely a listing, no web site, etc.


It is no wonder that no information came up about the business. Your posts are now showing up on google, but unless the guy is Internet savvy (probably not) your posts may not have much of an immediate effect. That is why it is important to have all of you legal re-courses in motion as the clock is ticking.

snowrunner 06-27-2014 11:23 PM

Anyway to put a Police report in for theft of your seat base? Possibly small claims?

aquaforce 07-08-2014 08:37 PM

How is this situation progressing? Any updates?

lniemeyer2 07-09-2014 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 4139029)
It would be cheaper to have it made over from scratch than to get it back...

Yep, what phragle said.

drpete3 07-10-2014 05:57 AM

I woke up thinking about this thread. I hope you can stick it to this guy somehow. I say after you get a new seat you should let us know then all of us start calling the guy. Ask him if he has a seat for sale? Idk just hate crooks

ryan450r 07-14-2014 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by aquaforce (Post 4150154)
How is this situation progressing? Any updates?

New seat on order. Probably be a few more weeks. The guys at Formula are amazing to deal with, specifically Steve Tester. He really knows his stuff about these boats. Top notch customer service!

Had a convo with a local guy who knows this guys history. I guess he used to own a boat dealership. Sold that business and is now doing upholstery. So, basically he has 30 years experience(according to his business card) in the boat industry but not that in upholstery. I am still blown away the boat dealer is holding strong to protect this guy.

At the end of the day, Formula has gone above and beyond with their support to help me with this problem. I have been boating the last two weekends with no back seat.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...psf392ab28.jpg

BoeingPilot 07-14-2014 08:42 AM

Your backseat is missing? I hadn't noticed in the photo.
:eekdrop:

Rippem 07-14-2014 09:43 AM

;)

The hatch upholstery looks to be in very fine condition.

Damn fine

VoodooRob 07-14-2014 09:45 AM

Formula is really good at helping people solve problems like this. I would have done exactly what you did to get this over with.

Keith Atlanta 07-14-2014 09:48 AM

What did they charge you for the seat? Make sure you let the other d-bag know so you can tell him to shove it up his arse.

38fountainecman 07-14-2014 04:29 PM

Who needs a back seat, she looks quite comfortable on the sun pad!!!!!


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