2001 Formula 419 in NY area, Torch graphics does 104 mph?????
 

Any of you guys in the NY area know this boat or know who owns it? A 2001 419 that does 104 MPH? It is listed by a broker for sale and I am curious if I can beat the bushes here and scare up any info on it.
It just seems to me that a boat performing on this level would be well known and someone may know of it here. No small thing to run triple digits in a triple engine production boat. Either it is not that fast or someone really put some coin in power.

Ad says triple 500s LOL

That is more of what I hope it is too. They would be easy engines to maintain and something that could hit 104 would probably be toooo much work and money to keep going. I want a happy medium to stay on the water with.


If something like quad rotors were installed on each engine then there is 104 but that is not what I'm after. The B1's would be toast too.

I have a 1999 419 Fastech with triple 500 EFI's, best speed is about 83 mph, light fuel load, no water, 2 person on board, and 1 1/2' chop on a windy day. It will run 75 mph all day loaded, but I usually cruise at about 45 mph. The only way that boat hits 104 mph is with at least trip 700 SCI or behind a truck. The 419 is a heavy hull, but really smooth in all kinds of water.

That is the kind of performance I would expect. Interesting that the 419 with this power can break 80 and the 382 with this power is still mid 70's.
I like the "really smooth" aspect of the 419 and that is why we are after one. I am not really after some speed but the 419 is a little faster.

yeah, but triple instead of twins...

Right. In comparison the 419 is bigger and heavier and it would seem like it really needs a third engine but since it is so much faster than the 382 with the twins of the same power I think it demonstrates the efficiency of the 419 more than the need of another power source.

I bet in the real world, there is about 3-4 mph difference between the two boats with same engine package.

Always thought a 419 with twin 1000 hp/side and #6 drives would be the ultimate offshore ...

I used to think that way too, until I was on a red Nortech 43V last summer with twin 700's and #6's...... You going to get your boat out this year Chris? How about showing up at Boyne Thunder with it?

If that... the 419 I was seriously considering ran about the same as your boat does with the same power. The cabin and cockpit are no larger than a 382, and the cabin is the "old" design.

Love the 419, the extra 3' does help in the rough stuff, but they certainly aren't speed demons

Cabin no larger than 382??? It is in fact much bigger! Just entering the cabin there is 3 steps instead of 2!

It is bigger for sure!!!

5'5" 419 vs 5'1" 382 cabin headroom. You gain 4 inches headroom at the entrance. However the length and width are pretty much identical, maybe an inch or three here and there. I tie up next to a 419 fastech every weekend, and the differences have been well observed :)

Cockpit is identical, it's all in the sunpad...

But oh boy what a sun pad!!! I used to camp out for the weekend on mine! Also, there is nothing like starting three engines at the dock. I do agree with RT930 that the length and width of the cabin and cockpit are pretty close, not really noticeable. Mine was certainly a wave crusher, loved the ride of the boat, miss it also.

I've got pics of us checking out the first 419 that we ever saw at the Miami boat show. We couldn't believe how big the sunpad looked....:cool:

It's a solid 6 chick's big, easy. :evilb:

RT,

I hope you mean 6 solid but not "big" chicks ...

Sunpad is very nice. Stupid swim ladder in the middle of the platform is a giant pain in the azz. Who wouldn't want 4" more of HEAD room.

aquaforce Any luck with the 419 or the number I gave you from the craigslist ad?

Sorry I have not gotten back to you on that info. Yes it was a direct hit. I got the HIN and started researching only to get bummed out on this boat. I love the Torch graphics but the boat seems built for speed and not amenities. It has extension boxes but nothing in the cabin and no gen. Minus the AC and gen is a deal killer for us here in the blistering hot south.

I also found an old auction from back in 6/03 when this boat sold as "wrecked". Not sure exactly what that meant but it sold at an auction less than two years after delivery. I would have qualified the "wrecked" circumstances if the boat was fully optioned to see if it was ok but sadly it is out.

Thanks for your help. I owe you one.

Sorry it didn't work out. Good luck with your search.